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223 There is an organization called "Moderation Management" that tries to help people achieve this "Holy Grail" (to quote Spark42). However the founder of "MM" slid back into her old drinking habits and killed two people while driving drunk.
Yeah, but Moderation Management clearly states that it is
not for alcoholic drinkers. Also, the founder had left MM and was attempting to stay sober in AA when she relapsed and caused those deaths.