Yeah, there's tons of threads about subs on here. I think subs are a lifesaver, literally. Good Luck and just don't forget that the normal dose that an opiate patient usually gets is like 4-8mg, if you get perscribed more than 12 or so, the dr. doesn't know jack about subs. Unfortunately there's plenty of them out there, I saw one women coming off a 10 vike a day habit get 16mg, haha. I came off a 1-1.5 gram/day habit of white herion with 12 mgs. Trust me, don't let your dosage get too high. Just take enough to feel *not horrible*, it still won't be a cakewalk, but for me it actually made it possible to get clean