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Old 11-22-2008, 09:57 AM
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lostbutterfly
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I think BV tried subs many times before he got it right, and KJ tried tapering many times. You really do have to be ready, me thinks. And both of them seem to work hard at their recovery. Both go to AA as well.

Subs help, but they are no "cure".
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