I was raised in ALATEEN way back in the 60s...My MOM forced us kids to learn the big book and togo to meetings to help us understand Alcoholism...I guess it helped in a way???I started seeing my Dad as sick,not bad.When I searched for help in my own recovery,as an Adult,I was so completly turned off by what seemed to me to be a cult mindset.Our way or you are doomed to Drink...I dont think so.I stayed sober for over 17yrs. without them.They treated that as if it was a fluke.I put effect into searching for AA recovery rate and ran acroosed a very interesting web site.If any of you are interested,google...Orange papers AA...it pretty much sums up my ideas on AA.It works for some but I am not one of them...Hippy