From my own experience, I wouldn't do this stuff unless I was absolutely desperate enough to. No one could convince me, and so many people tried for so many years (of course that doesn't prevent me from trying with others who are like I was). I wish there was another way. People will die from this, and people will get wet brain. Of course, all that's necessary is to fulfill a few simple requirements. For a lot of years, when push came to shove, I would have rather drank. Want to hit bottom? Reach back there and give yourself a whack. THen work some steps.