Good to read all the wonderful information I had forgotten since my last go at sobriety. Its been a few years, 20 to be exact, but somehow it feels like coming home!!! Thanks everyone for your love and support!

Wonderful post. Thanks for posting this post. I just joined this site and came across this thread. excellent and well balanced definitions!!

'real alcohoic'
 

The term, 'real alcoholic. is first used in the opening line of Chapter 3, of'Alcoholics Anonymous' 4th Ed.

Whilst the chapter goes on to describe the actions and behaviour of those, described as 'real alcoholics', from which much can be inferred...

Nowhere does it define the term ,'real alcoholic' which no doubt does, given the passage of time from then to the present day, exist?

Oh my goodness, I'm a "codie"!?! :c021:

Well, I guess it's time I stop being one.

Also, I think I'm going thru PAWS cause I got those symptoms you listed. :plzhelp::a136:

Thank you for this valuable information!!!!

It sincerely bugs me that addiction is labeled a disease by so many when no scientific evidence, not even the slightest observation, exists to prove so. There are recessive traits that can re-appear in family lines, but overall it is mostly random. It's just, I only hear people say addiction is a disease, I never see evidence. That's all that bugs me.

In recovery, I don't want to lie to myself, I want to be honest. If I cant observe a trend that suggests addiction being real, I feel like I'm lying to myself and I can't do that. I can't cheat my sobriety that way, it just wouldn't seem fair to me to 'accept defeat'.

SoberRecovery Content
 

Hey all, this thread is awesome! If you're interested, SoberRecovery actually has an article with just a few of these "vocabulary" words in addiction and recovery:

Vocabulary 101: Definition of Most-Used Recovery Terms.

Hopefully it's helpful to have them all in one place to share or bookmark.

Thanks for being an inspiration!:c011:

hi all

Hi oenkab - welcome :)

this isn't a particularly active thread - why not start your own thread to introduce yourself?

We'd love to see you at the Newcomers forum
Newcomers to Recovery - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

There's a big blue new thread button at the top left of the page...just click that and start your own thread :)

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I'm all about knowing what a word means if we don't know what a word means we don't know what we're talking about we can't make a point the message which can hold these alcoholic people must have depth and weight actually chapter 7 is an entire chapter on how to be a sponsor on page 263 it refers to I hope every AA could have the sponsorship that dr. Bob gave me it was called carrying the finding a new prospect of running a pigeon on your second visit if he has read this volume and is prepared to go through with the 12 steps mentioned in this book you can give him much practical advice the word fellowship refers to the group a group of people gathered together with a common problem searching for solution program a set of principles that we can follow the 12 steps we have to be careful with definitions though reminding ourselves the book was written in 1938 definitions where a lot different then than they are now grateful animotion feeling of happiness gratitude adverb the action taken showing the emotion of happiness I am grateful for... For instance the word trudge the definition today to walk heavily and slowly struggling the definition for the word trudge in 1938 to walk upright with purpose happily so we have to be careful of what definitions we find if we used the 2015 definition for words and apply it to the book Alcoholics Anonymous you are interpret an entirely different book the book was written in 1938 there's definitions will give the true meaning of the book just saying love this website or post whatever this is called a thread understanding what a word means can save a life

Hi FriendofBill.

If you break your posts up into sentences, they'd be a lot easier to read :)

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Excellent, thank you for these explanations!