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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: London
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To be honest, I don't have much for you accept a 'well done' for riding out the craving so effectively.
And the fact that my dad stopped smoking ten years ago, and he still has some moments like you describe where the cigarette 'calls' to him. I think if you've ever beeen an addict of anything, there is probably still that craving that pops up from time to time, although it lessens as time goes on.
And the fact that my dad stopped smoking ten years ago, and he still has some moments like you describe where the cigarette 'calls' to him. I think if you've ever beeen an addict of anything, there is probably still that craving that pops up from time to time, although it lessens as time goes on.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxnard (The Nard), CA, USA.
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Beth other than AA the idea of dissolving the ego with Zen Buddhism is a another way to get the job done.
As a fellow atheist, I hope your doing well today without the babysitter.
"Non-theism is relaxing with the ambiguity and uncertainty of the present moment without reaching for anything to protect ourselves. ... Nontheism is finally realizing there is no babysitter you can count on."
-Pema Chödrön
As a fellow atheist, I hope your doing well today without the babysitter.
"Non-theism is relaxing with the ambiguity and uncertainty of the present moment without reaching for anything to protect ourselves. ... Nontheism is finally realizing there is no babysitter you can count on."
-Pema Chödrön
No pity. No remorse. No fear
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 183
Not to do with spirituality, but hard science, physics, in fact, are some quotes by the great astronomer Carl Sagan, from his 1980 series "Cosmos."
“The cosmos is also within us, we’re made of star stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.”
For as long as there been humans we have searched for our place in the cosmos. Where are we? Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a hum-drum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people. This perspective is a courageous continuation of our penchant for constructing and testing mental models of the skies; the Sun as a red-hot stone, the stars as a celestial flame, the Galaxy as the backbone of night.
Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.
And my favourite: “The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.”
Reading Sagan has helped an atheistic friend of mine immensely in getting a Higher Power of his own understanding...the Cosmos itself. One last quote from our friend: “Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
All my best for your sobriety and quitting the death-sticks.
“The cosmos is also within us, we’re made of star stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.”
For as long as there been humans we have searched for our place in the cosmos. Where are we? Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a hum-drum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people. This perspective is a courageous continuation of our penchant for constructing and testing mental models of the skies; the Sun as a red-hot stone, the stars as a celestial flame, the Galaxy as the backbone of night.
Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.
And my favourite: “The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.”
Reading Sagan has helped an atheistic friend of mine immensely in getting a Higher Power of his own understanding...the Cosmos itself. One last quote from our friend: “Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
All my best for your sobriety and quitting the death-sticks.
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