bloodandwater

who can I talk to right now? and how?????????//

tubesk

if you're just looking for online company I'm around. you can email if you want.
otherwise there are always local or national crisis lines & AA numbers =)

ridetolive1963

name is Jeff, have had sobriety before feel desperate have so much to lose.
Cant seem to shake it...local croud in recovery has kinda gotten feed up with my relapses..would like to mtalk to soe one if willing thank you...

deedee

Hi Jeff and welcome to the forums

I'm sure others will be along soon, but you might also want to introduce yourself in the newcomers forum. It's a bit more active there and I'm sure you'll find much support.

Keep posting and I'm glad you found us

BaldHeadedJohn

Hi Jeff-
I'm here if you want to chat. I've been having some troubles myself as of late. I can manage a week or two, then decide to give up/give in for a few days. I had a year and a half a while ago, but for some reason I can't convince myself to stay sober this time.

Keep posting- I'll be here for you.

Brightest blessings-
BHJ

SaTiT

well..some poeple in recovery had to jump on my ass after a while too.
Yes, i got babied. i was young only 22 and the old folks took me uder
their wings. I even pushed my grand sponsor to the edge after a while.

Yes, I didn't have to be sober to attend, but I started using the program
en-appropriately...I get well enough to use again.
Yes, it trip me out for a nice gentle older gentalman to tell me like it is.
But he wasn't lying to me. He loved me..but he cared about me too and
yeap that tuff love came out of him kind of woke my ass up..
but of couse i whine about it for a while and relapsed again of couse.

I don't know oneday after being sick of myself and all of the BS.
i finally dug the BB out from the bottom of my trunk. I didn't even
have to paid for that book. it was thrown at me. I couldn't even
stay focus enough to read. it gave me a damn headache to read it.
But i F with the program long enough.

I was young, rebillouse, onery..and it would take the people in AA
with that type of special love I needed. Willing to love me unconditionally
and willing to call the cops on my ass in an AA meeting too.lol
Not to worry..thou..my sponsor had cops called on him in AA too.
I'm not that special.lol

ccirider

Hi Jeff:

If you don't sort out all of the emotional baggage you are lugging around with you every day, you will never stay sober. Or you may get sober and then replace alcohol with gambling or some other addiction. It's not about alcohol, my friend. How much time do we spend looking outside ourselves vs. how much time do we spend looking inside ourselves? Do you think happiness comes from without or from within?

Peace.

Anna

Hi Jeff,

Welcome!

As you can see, there are lots of us here who have been where you are. This is a great place to come to for support.

ridetolive1963

yes this is a total surprise...I appreciate what every single person has said.....

truly amazing.

j

barb dwyer

well jeff - how is it going today?

mike_mass

Jeff,

Apologize to the local crowd and ask for help.

ridetolive1963

Have actually gone back to Mens Group Thurs night and quess what, everyone was supportive...Amazing what I can create in my head.

THANK YOU.

barb dwyer

that's good to hear.

When you read a site like this - you can see just how often that happens.

I was five years going back to the Fellowship.
I know exactly how each person who posts that they can't do it ... feels.

But there's nothing *I* can do about it ... you know?
Other than keep them company until they decide to go.

I'm glad you went.

savoy

We're not supposed to waste our time with the unwilling.
You might as well keep drinking until you do become willing.
Notice it says nothing about 'don't drink' in the Big Book, actually it says the opposite, step over to the nearest bar and have a few pops if thats what it takes. Thats why it works.

Ngokpa

I've been looking at a book about relapses that suggests putting your relapses on a calendar. Do an inventory of them--who you were with, where you were, what lead up to it, etc. It's a way to figure out your triggers.

When I got sober I just went to a whole mess of meetings, and still felt like a bottle would jump up and pour itself down my throat if I walked down the wrong isle of the supermarket. Being vulnerable to relapse is a fact of life in early sobriety, and it means taking it seriously and doing what you can do.

Guy I know keeps relapsing, and called me up drunk Saturday night saying how much he hates AA. I wasn't too crazy about it either in the beginning, and it still pushes my buttons from time to time, but that's secondary. The fact is I couldn't stay sober without the place and I needed to figure out what was driving the addiction. First we put out the fire, then we figure out what caused it.

Anna

Jeff, it's good to hear from you again.

I think us addicts can create all kinds of stuff in our heads and it's not helpful at all. Stay focused on your recovery.

savoy

The reason why abstinence management doesn't work is twofold, the obvious one being that our live are unmanageable period.

The other is the because of the "trigger" that all alcoholics have.
Life.

Elizabeth2007

Jeff .. how are you ??

frescacan

Jeff, if you're a real alcoholic, you don't need support and you don't need to sort through your "emotional baggage." You need a spiritual awakening that results from taking the steps. Any other advice can kill you. Find a sponsor that will take you through the steps out of the big book BEFORE he has you do ANYTHING else. PM me and I will be glad to give you my phone number and help you get hooked up with someone in your area.

jimhere

And feed the lie. As long as a person thinks of themselves as a relapser that's what happens. It is always about "This time...," and "Yeah but..."

Human power solution doesn't work for the true alkie.