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Old 07-18-2011, 09:45 PM
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:05 AM
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I don't understand DXM addiction at all, but I understand addiction and anything in excess or taken other than "as prescribed" (including OTC) never has good consequences.... This forum is one of the most non judgemental places I've ever been. If you fall down, everyone collectively picks you up and helps you get back on track.
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Does anyone have any advice for me as far as how to get through the day? I find myself at times beginning to get nostalgic about DXM. I also begin to tempt myself when I get bored. I've been to a couple of NA meetings but in some ways it's tuff relating to other addicts who aren't on DXM. Do you recommend staying away from all stores that sell DXM? I really want to beat this addiction and i'm tired of being double-minded as the bible says. I want to be sober and be a good person for Jesus Christ. I feel as if I keep letting him down and denying him by going back to this drug like a dog to vomit. It's frustrating. Can anyone relate? Any advice?
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Triggers are different for each of us. I kept some "paraphenalia" and drew a skull and cross bones on it as a reminder that I was killing myself.
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Exclamation dex hells

dexer Reporting in.

since my last posts which were long ago ( i think )

I have gone so much further down the dex hole than i could have ever possibly imagined. i'm writing this from within a psyche unit right now. GOOD LUCK to all dissociative users.
it IS a unique group and the mental health system neglects us (not on purpose)
THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC TREATMENTS FOR US AND THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE EDUCATION ON THE TOPIC

we can't just clumping us dissociative users with the others.
i've beein using heroin, meth, alcohol, pills... yes yes, meth was amazing, heroin too.

BUT THE DISSOCIATIVE EFFECTS OF DXM ARE NOT WELL DOCUMENTED IN A PROFFESSIONAL WAY. THEY CAN'T KEEP TREATING US LIKE HIGH-SCHOOLERS.

this **** has done such mental damage to me that I CAN NOT EVEN BEGIN TO EXPLAIN.

IF YOU SEE MY OAR FLOAT ALONE, THEN YOU KNOW I WONT BE BACK. AND I NEVER MADE IT HOME.

It's time to make this chemical, or this class of drugs REALIZED in the drug community.

YES, mr proffessional DISSOCIATIVE HALLUCINOGENS are DIFFERENT from hallucinogens. THIS IS IMPORTANT.
each trip causes a traumatic experience in the brain. it causes memory damage compared to PTSD. This is no joke.

excuse my poor spelling im in a hurry. limited computer time at the psyche ward. MUCH LOVE dexers! <3 <3 <3 good luck
and don't let God touch you in the park. it's not okay. and it's not your fault if he does. God knows no boundaries when on the dex.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:59 AM
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hang in there everyone.
and the god thing wont go away
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:27 AM
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I suppose I was ignorant about DXM addiction. As someone who has used it recreationally, I have always had terrible experiences with all dissociatives (and I say that because I HAVE used all dissociatives, Ketamine PCP and NO2 as well). Dissociatives have put me in the most terrifying states of mind I've ever been in. A bad dissociative trip makes a bad acid trip look like a walk in the park. I personally can't imagine how someone could become addicted to this drug, based on my OWN experiences. But everyone's bodies are different I suppose and people might also perceive the same effects differently.

Good luck with your DXM addiction.

In my own experience Marissa, you can beat it. Dissociatives always changed me and made me an anxious wreck for about three months after each trip. Whenever I made it three months without using them I came back to my "normal" self, which I was afraid I never would. I never had an addiction problem with dissociatives I was simply a bored teenager.

Stop now before you get "Olney's Lesions". If you've only been doing it a few years, the "brain damage" you might FEEL like you have is purely mental and will clear up completely with a year of sobriety. Brain damage from DXM takes a long time to develop and high average doses, but it can happen. You're not there yet so take solace in that and quit while you're ahead!

And don't isolate yourself from other drug addicts. I've known two dissociative drug using addicts...the drugs they use are starkly different from the average drug addict, but the REASON you keep using the drug is the same. So don't exclude yourself from NA simply because you think dissociative drug users are somehow different.
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Old 09-04-2011, 11:18 AM
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Does anyone have any advice for me as far as how to get through the day? I find myself at times beginning to get nostalgic about DXM. I also begin to tempt myself when I get bored. I've been to a couple of NA meetings but in some ways it's tuff relating to other addicts who aren't on DXM. Do you recommend staying away from all stores that sell DXM? I really want to beat this addiction and i'm tired of being double-minded as the bible says. I want to be sober and be a good person for Jesus Christ. I feel as if I keep letting him down and denying him by going back to this drug like a dog to vomit. It's frustrating. Can anyone relate? Any advice?
you're right, it is like a dog returning to vomit (been there many times).

A really good piece of advise was givin to me concerning addiction. Pray for God to help with the cravings!!

I also had a tuff time relating to others in NA but kept going anyway. I'm a pill addict and a OTC addict, where as most there are crack addicts.

As the reading say, we are to concertrate on the similarities not the differances! ....and wow are there ever a ton of similarities!!!

We all end up using for the same reasons , no matter what the drug is.

Get to meetings !! and dont let the dmx crap kill you !!


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Old 09-11-2011, 09:23 AM
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OMG thank you

YES YES YES Totally ruining my marriage and life cause I keep going back to that damn headspace. I have been a regular user for a for about 4 years and its the same repetative cycle as every other abusable substance. But it is so nice to have someone else to share with here. today is my day one for a new beginning. I cannot will not let my life and family fall apart! Im feeling the strain too i dont know. i just need to grow the fu@* up i guess. its so hard sometimes
Ive always thought of it like a giant whirlpool and everything in it is slightly interconnected thats some wild ass ****. drug nonesense im sure but. still i gotta lease it behind me. feel free to mail me anytime or facebook me or whatever anytime i will never turn anyone away. always open for conversation on the subjest definatly my doc, but again trying so hard to move on
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:31 AM
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olneys lesions come from injecting the drug. but as far as the bad trip scene it never got weird enough for me man... i guess some of us are just messed up?
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:38 AM
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no doubt about relating. I think the answer isnt going to be found in meeting and 12 step progs, Dont get me wrong those are great if you work them and dont cheat yourself. Thats obviously the key discipline... its a bitch but with dex it was alost like as messed up as this sounds its like some crepy divination ( nonsense of course) tool. like what can we find in the wretched depths of this weird headspace or something. bits and pieces images and thoughts sounds sights all jumbled up into a cosmic stew for the tripsies. im certian it can drive one mad.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:41 AM
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no doubt about relating. I think the answer isnt going to be found in meeting and 12 step progs, Dont get me wrong those are great if you work them and dont cheat yourself. Thats obviously the key discipline... its a bitch but with dex it was alost like as messed up as this sounds its like some crepy divination ( nonsense of course) tool. like what can we find in the wretched depths of this weird headspace or something. bits and pieces images and thoughts sounds sights all jumbled up into a cosmic stew for the tripsies. im certian it can drive one mad.
i wouldnt be suprised if things like full moons and the allignment of stars greatly have an impact on the trip as well. its just that weird.
so if you value your nuggett stay out of here!!!! trust me!
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:49 AM
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i will be a regular here if there are nuff people round. gotta get some sleeo not tho thx foe ein here guys
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Old 09-11-2011, 02:35 PM
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Wow. Olney's lesions.

The only guys who know about that kind of stuff are either medical researchers, addiction medicine specialists, or maybe biochemistry students.

Hmmmm
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Old 09-18-2011, 04:26 PM
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(although it might seem positive at first, is /isn't/. DXM is bad ******* news. Period. Stay the **** away and get out while you still can. Stick to shrooms and sid if you must. Once again: stay the **** away from this.)
Just turned sixteen. Lonely guy, no girl, few friends, many books. European-blood, although the term usually used is White or Caucasian.

Met Dexter for the first time on summer break between grades ten and eleven. Looked up an article on Totse, thought 'Hey, this might make the sorrow go away' and chugged it like a narc. I felt the most relaxed I had in a long, looooong time. Three-hundred and fifty-four milligrams of good ol' robo. Yum.

A few days later, I dosed again. This time twice the amount, via syrup. Puked an hour into it, then started to come up quite fast. Loved it. I wanted to feel like this for the rest of my life.

Emotions coalesced into colors and soundwaves echoed throughout my bloodstream to the melodic emanence of a folk guitar and flute. When I was coming up on Dexter, I didn't hate myself anymore. My parents could be at each other's throats in the next room, and I'd just put on some headphones, turn off the lights, and close my eyes. Entire universes were created.

I went on some dates with Lucy a little while after I started hanging with Dexter. Lucy didn't compare - not by a longshot. I have respect for Lucy to this day - I hold fear and awe towards Dexter.
Up to this point in my life I loved reading science-fiction and fantasy, with the occasional historical text thrown in.

However, I wanted more. Needed meaning. Purpose. I was a single individual, a unique snowflake according to the posters on the classroom wall. The initial fluffy magic left, but the grandiosity remained. A hunger inside of me; no longer just for Dexter's company, but for knowledge.

I had a basic plan for my life now. I could play any game I wanted. Musician, artist, writer, biker, soldier, sculpter, builder, carpenter, pastor, metalworker. Regardless, for the time being I needed a world-concept. The sorry excuse for a school system failed utterly in this regard. The hunger remained.

Timothy Leary's "Design for Dying" was the first to be devoured. After this, I integrated the ideas I needed from the fiction I had read in the past into something resembling a lense. Not a world-concept yet, just a dirty magnifying glass through which to gaze out at Multicultopia.
(...times out at the library. I'll continue soon.)
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:32 PM
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Im really happy to see people talking about this stuff, its been my primary ever since i started using
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:26 PM
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just checking in, i hadn't looked at soberrecovery.com for several months, glad to see there has been occasional activity on this thread... there is always the tangential aspect that DXM brings to one's mind, so there's that.

But honestly, as far as the medical community not recognizing DXM as a serious addiction, i believe we can educate our own doctors and counselors with what we know of the drug, this is what i've done, and it makes me feel like i have control of my own addiction, being able to shine a light on a quite new (relatively) drug and helping them to help me.

But alas, i was in prison 6 months for a drunken episode (alcohol) and got out three weeks ago, and relapsed twice immediately. Dissapointed in myself, but have a week now and attending AA/NA daily. I believe we CAN indeed get help from the 12-steps, even AA really only you just need a DESIRE to quit 'x' drug, you can ask almost any AA and they will tell you its Ok to be there for drugs, you just substitute the word 'alcoholic' for 'addict' and pretend that you are talking about your alcoholism. Has worked for me in the past, and i'm going to whatever meetings i can get to, daily.

I have abused DXM for 12 years, and at times quite heavily. Olney's lesions (most serious DXM abusers are aware of the risk, or if they are concerned enough about their health to do the research) i'm not really worried about, when the dxm clears my system i can think just fine. Whatever further 'clearing' of my mind will be that much more appreciated.

I will continue to seek help from those who have been successful in recovery from addiction, regardless of their DOC We aren't that unique that we cannot receive the help being offerered through the programs. You have to make it work for yourself. But dont listen to me, i'm still fresh in recovery but have been trying to get clean pretty much from the time i started doing DXM. Best of luck you dexxers, keep the end in mind but first things first.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:20 AM
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WoW!

Finally a drug I haven't heard of or tried, I knew there was one.

But not to make light of it, DXM sounds gnarley and will steer myself or anyone I know far far away from it instantly if it appears round these parts.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:44 PM
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All I have to say is this drug sent me to jail.
I got 2 DUI's over this ****.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:46 PM
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Checking back in. I stayed clean for about 6 months last year, relapsed in August. Spent several months and several stays in the psych ward for several isues, while using dxm, weed, spice, alcohol, somas, coke, and crack. It was a hell of a ride, and I actually got clean January 23rd while I was homeless and staying at a crack house. Complete and utter INSANITY! I've got 2 1/2 months now, and no desire to use. Still not sure how I went from all that and getting high every day to not using and not wanting to use, but it happened. I go to NA regularly, but I still wish I had never met ANY of these horrible drugs.
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