mp91163

Sorry all, my bad, just speaking from my experience. It's just that when I decided to come off oxy, I did a lot of homework beforehand, and the large majority of info I read on these forums and others wasn't very positive about suboxone. Plus, here in NJ, there's very few doctors that will prescribe the stuff, which I find really ironic, considering that ANY doctor can and does rx oxy!

Believe me, I am glad that you and bvaljalo were successful with your subox detox. Hey, whatever works for each of us! Of course, YMMV (your mileage may vary).

But yeah, speaking in absolutes is a bad habit of mine, I agree. Gotta work on it...

kittens5

Don, just wanted to say hello and tell you to hang in there, and work YOUR program. None of us are living your life, and have no right to put you down. How you get off the pills is your business. You came here for support. The people here are just like you! Some may have been clean longer, but it doesn't make them the "recovery experts". Just try to listen to the ones who are successful, yet know the struggles, and are willing to help you. BV, Emmer, Christian, and even the controversial Bear! lol! They are the real deal. I am on Suboxone, and although people may not care for it, it's right for ME, and that is what counts. I go to meetings, and am welcomed and supported there. The feeling is that just for today...you aren't getting loaded, and that COUNTS!! Your program is yours alone..and it's between you, your sponsor, your doctor, and your higher power. No-one else needs to be putting the negative commentary on it. I really hope that you find peace, sobriety, and support from this forum and others in your life.

It's a tough road, and I'm "living the dream" as well. I must say this...my life is 100% better since I saw the doctor on 12/31/08. My liver enzymes are back to normal, my job is secure, my relationship with my family and husband is better than ever. I no longer am filled with thoughts of how to get more pills, how to lie and come up with excuses as to why I need to get my refill early again, and most of all, I can remember things again!! I was forgetting conversations, and parts of some evenings while drinking with the pills. It was getting weird and scarey. So glad to be over that crap! Life gets so much easier when you do the right thing, re-gain control, and find support in other addicts like yourself. Don't let anyone make you feel "less than". You are doing your personal best and trying to get a handle on what's going to work for YOU. Try to sneak to a meeting, or get someone to talk to where you are. This forum can only take you so far....xoxoxo

scaredtostp

Thanks for the kind words kitten, i do hope this program of tapering very slowly over months will work for me, I think it will as long as the wd dont get to heavy and the dr said that can be controlled by the very slow taper, tapering slowly, as the dr advised allows your body to start to slowly make its own endorphins which takes time and that is why a fast taper never works in his experience, by the way the dr i see is also a pain management specialist along with being an addictionologist and is highly recomended by one of my best friends who is a surgeon at our local hospital. Ive been on the long acting meds for two days now and compared to the immidiate release drugs, there are no ups and downs and the night sweats have stopped completely, I dont feel high on them like i did with the imediate release oxy, and dont feel the lows i did, weird feeling but part of his plan.....

kittens5

I am so glad you are doing well. Nice to not have the night sweats. I remember those days....no fun at all. I think you will do great as long as you are able to follow the doctors plan. If you have the least bit of stuggle, make sure you tell him.....so he can help you! Don't suffer in silence, or manipulate the plan in any way...that's when it all goes to hell. Trust me!
Take care and keep me posted. Thanks for the PM.

Stagebear

I meant that, sincerely and in a good way. I do it, too, and more harshly than you.

Jerseyans have to stick together. We have a ton of Jersey/Philly here.

scaredtostp

ya, maybe a bit too much sometimes....lol

scaredtostp

Well today is my second meeting with the addict doc, kinda nervous and not sure what will happen. Ive been following his directions of the slow taper to a t, the only thing i have felt is a bit of wd before my next pill and some night sweats and having a hard time to stay asleep, yesterday was weird, I took my dose and felt fine, went out for supper which was not the healthiest choice on the menu but i wanted to treat myself, when i got home, I got kind of jumpy, twitchy sorta and came over very tired and lost feeling, spaced out, then went to bed and woke up with the sweats but besides that i slept well.....was a weird experience..

alldun

Sounds normal scared. Coming off I'd get the sweats so bad. Even when I reduced my dose. Hang in there. You can make it. Don't overthink it. You know what you gotta do!

good luck

scaredtostp

Thank you alldone for the useful advice, I am always one who over thinks everything, sometimes its good but in this situation, its useless because i end up beating myself up inside and I know that wont help as it is a waste of good energy. energy that i should be using to stop these pills. Tommorow i will be switching one of the oxycontin for morphine type pills which are supposed to be less addictive a bit, just part of the taper thing my doc wants me to do, im pretty nervous to change but I will give it a real shot. I told my dr that i feel stressed mentally about my using and that is why he said we will take it slow, he said every little step towards stopping the oxy is one step I wont have to go through again, he is also meeting with me to help me understand the rehab part of addiction which as I understand is the hardest part, Oxy has become my number one problem forgetter and that must change to stay stopped. Thanks for listening as putting this in type helps me see more clear and helps get it off of my chest.....have a great day everyone

fuster

If you consider the huge number of alcoholics and addicts, most of whom are not seeking help, this number is not so daunting. The only number that matters is NUMBER ONE, and that is me, myself and I. Or You. You only have to keep yourself in recovery, not the 98% that fail to keep from relapsing.

Many start with enthusiasm and fail and take a drug or drink. Relapse starts BEFORE you take the drink or drug. Long before this. It is the management and spiritual tools you use that allow you to manage how you respond to challenges in life and to emotional pain. This is what keeps us in recovery instead of holding on for dear life just "not drinking or not using".

dizzydolphin

I went to hospital to detox. Only 2 days of soboxon and the worst was over. Over doing soboxon is said to be even harder get off of. Got to do the work and have the will. I'm on day 14 and still roughing out. But don't want to see another oxy again, as everyday is just a little bit better. Hang in there!

Spica

You too Dizzy, things should begin looking up for you real soon.

You able to sleep any?

dizzydolphin

Only 3 to 4 hours a night from 3:00 am to 7:00 am then an hour nap usually about 2: 00 pm. still lots of anxiety

Spica

Good deal - the sleep helps. I am continually reminded from people with more clean time than me that the sleep thing does improve.

Some days are better than others. You are doing great. It sucks getting all these toxins out of our system - but it is soooo worth it!!!

Have you read up on PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome). This is where we find ourselves after the acute stuff lets up.

I am attaching a link to a great page about PAWS - not only does it explain what we go through in detail but it also gives suggestions on how to help us work through it. Helped me alot!!

PAWS « Digital Dharma

YESJesusLovesME

Hi there. First, let me say I am keeping good thoughts for you. I know you can do this. I took oxy for years. However ever person's situation here is different I guess. I can not say to you how to avoid the withdrawl sadly, as even though I took it daily (3 80 mg pills), I was not addicted to OXY, so when I decided to quit, I just quit? There were some physical pains, but it was nothing too bad (for me at least). I am well into my 20 something year though of fighting Meth addiction (with at one point 15 yrs clean). I would highly reccomend you get into some form of NA or something though, as I would definately bet that possibly someone with that experience might be able to offer you some sound and valuable advice. Don't give up hon, we can do this if we all stick together and keep PUSHING (Praying Until Something Happens)!

YESJesusLovesME

Good point hon. You are right. I relapsed last night. I KNEW before I did it, that that was what was going to happen. .. hmmm duh? TY for pointing out to me what should have been obvious!

cleanup

I need help guys. Don't know where else to go. I cannot tell anyone because of the type of work that I do. I've been messing around with opiates for some time. It's gotten much worse lately. I've posted here before but didn't really feel too welcome, felt like some people were acting like they were too good just because they've gotten sober. Anyhow, I'm up to about 100-120 mg oxy a day. I am tapering, can't do any other way because of my line of work. I don't have family here. I'm posting here to hopefully get some support, listen to other experiences and give help and support the best way I can to anyone that needs it. 'Til next time.

FT

Hi cleanup,

You might want to read some of the other threads on the substance abuse forum and hop on one of those, too. This one is old (2 years or so) and so the original posters may not even read here any more.

Anyway, welcome. You can do this.

FT

IvanKatz

"Ive been using for around 6 months and am now up to 12-16 percocets per day".

First of all welcome to SR. Second of all, if you are taking that high a dose, I highly suggest you either quit the percs or use something else before you need a liver transplant. Doses of daily acetaminophen are toxic above 3000 mg per day. I'm being very serious - deadly serious! at ten 10/325, you are exceeding the max safe dosage. I do not know your financial situation but a transplant can cost around 300K your first year... It can also cost your life.

So now that we got that out of the way, I wish you all the luck in the world. We are here to help.