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Old 12-31-2019, 07:55 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I think Christianity has a lot more in common with Hinduism than anything else, although to be honest, I haven't done a deep dive into it. I'll get to it, but I'm reading like 5 books on spirituality right now, with all kinds on my list.

I think the planets are archtypes and that even if we don't perceive it, we are in contact with them. We've already talked about how Light has such magical properties. I think they are like portals into other worlds and the reason we have stories and impressions about them is that in some way we share some kind of communication with them. I believe now that we are in a cosmic egg and the Earth is a realm, with rings, and the next outer ring has Mars and Venus as their male/female sun and moon, and further our is Saturn and Jupiter, Uranus is the original creator, and Neptune is the waters separating us from whatever is beyond. Pluto is perhaps some kind of messenger, since at times it goes in front of Neptune's orbit.

I know it sounds crazy to reject the spinning water baal, dying prison planet! But I do! And I've been so much happier ever since! I love the cosmic egg idea and I love that it makes the world stop spinning out of control and puts God up above and hell down below, and brings our Sun and Moon so much closer, and makes us special and not just like a single grain of sand in an endless beach. I think it's so cool how people are going out and proving it! We see too far. And Light proves it too with lighthouses. And sound proves it with the whales in the seas. No one factors the curve of the Earth in when they build a single thing. And no one factors the curve when the fly, or at sea, or even in submarines. So now I think if I'm going to suspend my belief - which the spinning water baal requires as well - then I'm picking the beautiful one with hope and magic, not the one that makes me feel lousy and sad. I'm going all in and believing that God created it all in 6 days and there's a firmament up above and we are all just a whole big bunch of lost souls swimming in a big old fish bowl, just like Floyd said. I would say to research flat Earth, and research who Darwin and Freud and Einstein were. They were all secret society Baal worshipers, if you ask me. Tesla thought we were in a realm and that guy was base AF.

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But when you're learning about different religions what is the most important question in your mind?
One thing I look for is how that religion teaches its member to be good moral people and what kind of societies those values create. I also try to look for the commonalities they have with each other, because I think that's where the truth is, in the synchronicity's.

I think we live in a fallen world, that the Earth is our paradise, and Satan's prison. Our job is to pass the spiritual test by discerning our way through his web of lies.

I know how it sounds! Just last year I was happily a godless heathen happily drinking my fluoride and tuned out on Netflix.
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And I've been so much happier ever since! ... and makes us special and not just like a single grain of sand in an endless beach. ... then I'm picking the beautiful one with hope and magic, not the one that makes me feel lousy and sad.
May these good feelings increase even more in 2020. Happy New Year whenever it comes where you are!
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Happy New Year to you too! And to anyone else reading this

2020 is going to be a big year astrologically. There are going to be a number of conjunctions that haven't happened in a long time, and two eclipses, one on the solstice. The Toltec's say this is the year we go into the 6th sun and it changes from a tonal to a nagul sun. It started in 2012 and it ends in 2020 when the new age begins. The age of Aquarius, ruled by the air and symbolized as man. There's going to be a Pluto/Saturn conjunction on Jan 10th, followed by a full moon eclipse on the 12th. I wish I lived in the country and owned a telescope because I think I could get into studying the stars.
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Happy New Year Aleric and Wholesome and any other readers! May we enjoy health, peace and freedom. A smidgeon of prosperity too, would be a bonus.
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Happy New Year Tatsy! Have a good un.
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Old 01-05-2020, 02:51 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Ever heard of the 11 Point Plan of the Frankfurt School?

1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion.
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children.
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority.
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking.
7. Emptying of churches.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime.
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits.
10. Control and dumbing down of media.
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family.

One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ – the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:

• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls.
• abolish all forms of male dominance – hence the presence of women in the armed forces.
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’.

‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks’

"Thus heaven I've forfeited, I know it full well. My soul, once true to God, is chosen for hell"
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I had heard of the Frankfurt School but only about it's view on the subject of reason and not the 11 points you've described.

I'll just try to describe this view then because I think it actually makes a lot of sense!

The narrative of the Western Enlightenment was that society progressed from barbarism to civilisation through reason replacing mythology, and the rise of science. The Frankfurt School (or critical theory as it's also known) believed that Western civilisation then began to unintentionally reverse this. The 18th-century Enlightenment had freed us of from lots of superstitions but the hope that science would lead to a better world failed in the 20th century with the horrors of the First World War. So the Frankfurt School felt that 'instrumental reason' had failed and that something more was needed.

They believed that human reason had freed us from superstitious fear and so in that way was liberating. But it had then been taken as being able to explain everything so that nothing, including our consciousness and values, really existed unless it could be explained scientifically. It had then ceased being liberating and became tyrannical.

So it believes that we have only really succeeded in replacing our old myths with a new one called rationality. With the belief that rationalism and science can explain everything, what the Frankfurt School calls reification has happened: the transformation of people into objects.

I think this is where religion and philosophy can help because they can give another type of explanation, a personal explanation, for our personal experiences. These are not repeatable phenomena that are in the public space and so we are not simply objects that can be scientifically explained or explained away.
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I find communism really really scary.

I look at China and their social credit system and how Hong Kong is fighting the good fight against it. They have camps there. Now that communism has been paired with the surveillance state, I don't know how they will ever get out from under it.

I look at history and what happened to the poor Russians under the Bolsheviks and see nothing but horror. I don't want any more interference from outside interests in my country, they can keep their revolutionary spirits to themselves.

Last year I would have stood on the side of science. This year I see it as worshiping man over God. I believe in the devil now and I believe that he really is the father of lies and that it's by manipulating our virtues that we often get entrapped in them. Equality just sounds so noble. Who doesn't want everyone to have it good? Only problem is that it never ends that way, it always ends with everyone suffering equally, except the elite, who are insane and who hate us.

What do you think of the theory that there are two genetic lines coming out of the story of genesis? That Cain is fathered by the serpent and Abel by Adam? Part of God's curse on Eve is that there will be enmity between the two seeds, and God favored Abel's offering and he was a keeper of sheep, but God rejected Cain because he was a tiller of the Earth.
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I believe that humans need to turn towards spiritualism, in readiness for the advancement of science which is not very far off producing AI robots that can entirely replicate human actions and thought processes (minus the self-destructive thought patterns).

So, we could all be potentially replaced by the powers that be. But the AI won't (yet anyway) have a spirit/soul/whatever that generates love and joy and sadness, and that latter quality, may yet save the human race from the inevitable rise of AI robots. That's presuming we're not all in a simulation currently, like The Matrix pointed towards, maybe some science-fiction authors had foresight.

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Agreed Tatsy, the AI is bad. It's like there's a competition to see which nation is the most insane and will push it the furthest. Who knows what these people are really up to? That pedophile creep who was pimping children for the elite and royalty, Jeffrey Epstein had underground bunkers on his island with weird genetic stuff going on. He was invested in all kinds of weird science. They found children's skulls on the island and he had a temple.... reminds me of the Canaanites with the child sacrifice to Moloch. That's where the word cannibal comes from, Canaanite Baal worshipers.

I don't think we are living in a simulation though. I think that's just more Lucifierian lies to keep us disconnected from God.

All the weapons and AI and surveillance creeps me right out. Google is going to be setting up shop here in Toronto, they want to build one of these smart cities. I want no part of it! My Jesuit, St Clair pedigreed, Prime Minister Turdo loves communist China, he says he admires their dictatorship. He's bought off the media again, so we can't expect any honest reporting, only propaganda that supports whatever the liberals want them to.

My fear is that they are going to flood the country with foreigners and place them where they need voters and create an unstoppable voting block and we will never get out from under them. Or we will have our country split up.
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I believe that humans need to turn towards spiritualism, in readiness for the advancement of science which is not very far off producing AI robots that can entirely replicate human actions and thought processes (minus the self-destructive thought patterns).

So, we could all be potentially replaced by the powers that be. But the AI won't (yet anyway) have a spirit/soul/whatever that generates love and joy and sadness, and that latter quality, may yet save the human race from the inevitable rise of AI robots. That's presuming we're not all in a simulation currently, like The Matrix pointed towards, maybe some science-fiction authors had foresight.
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I agree Tatsy. I think it's hard enough to imagine an AI that has consciousness/sentinece at all, let alone one that can love and feel joy and sadness as we do.

The reason I'm skeptical is that we don't even begin to know what consciousness is. We have no idea how the mind (assuming we believe, as I do, that we have a mind as distinct from the brain) interacts with the brain and so the idea that we're somehow getting closer and closer to building a machine that has consciousness is really quite meaningless. If we don't know what consciousness is, how can we measure this?

And, as you say, it's very difficult to imagine a machine feeling love, joy and sadness. We're also moral beings, which is an important part of what makes us distinctly human, and it's very hard to see how we could ever build a machine that closes that gap.
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This last year I've come to realize just how badly we've been lied to and deceived. I can't even trust the history that I've lived through (911 and the entire middle east fiasco for example), let alone all the nonsense history I've been taught through school and media. I think most of what we call reality is a lie. Here's some of the biggest inversions that we currently live with.

Abortion is feminism
Sodomy is pride
Vaccines are healthcare
Children are transsexual
The news is to inform us
Banks are to save money
Math is racist
Socialism is moral
The government protects us
Drugs and alcohol are cool
Diversity is our strength
God doesn't exist
We live on a spinning water ball
Human are a parasite on the earth and the earth is turning on us

I've had my world turned upside down, or right side up, depending on how you look at it. And it's been tough. If I felt like I didn't fit into my old life after I quit drinking....now I really feel like I don't fit in anywhere! But there's no way I would want to go back to sleep.

The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. - Edgar J Hoover

There is a power so organized, so subtle, so complete, and so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - Woodrow Wilson

I honestly believe that we live in a fallen world and that the adversary is winning, and we all need to wake up.
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I missed another big inversion.

That white people are to blame for everything and we have no culture or identity and we need to tolerate whatever we are told to tolerate, or we are the racist ones.

The reality is that we are the minority on the planet.
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Just to talk about one of those points - that God doesn't exist - I agree that we live in a secular age and many people don't believe in God.

This may be because of the prevailing belief that the world around us can understood soley in terms of physical laws such as gravity. To give an example, suppose I boil a pan of water and ask you 'Why is it boiling?'. You might say something like heat energy is transferred to the molecules of water which eventually forms bubbles. But I could say, it's boiling because I want a cup of tea!

Both of our explanations are right. You gave a scientific explanation and answered the 'how' of why the water is boiling, whereas I gave a personal explanation of the 'why' question. Both explanations are right and both are needed to fully answer the question 'Why is the pan of water boiling?'.

I think a lot of people are made to feel that scientific explanations and personal explanations are in mutual conflict. So if you ask how the universe come into existence, we're likely to talk about the Big Bang and graity and but still there's the question of how gravity exists in the first place and who put it there.

Physical laws can never give a complete explanation of anything because they are really just descriptions of what happens under certain conditions. You also need an agency that has intention and creative power. For example, Newton's laws of motion in themselves never sent a football flying across the pitch. That can only be done by people using their feet (or hands in American football!).

You could similarly give an explanation of why the universe exists by saying it's because of the Big Bang which was brought about by God because he wanted an environment for people to exist and so he could to share something of himself with them.

So one reason why people don't believe in God anymore is the idea that there is a deep-seated conflict between science and religion. But I don't think this is true.
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You just reminded me of what I believe is another great lie! The big bang and evolution. I believe the soul can evolve, but nature adapts. I don't believe for a second that bacteria had sex and mutated and miraculously found another mutated bacteria and they had sex and that turned into a fish that mutated and found another mutated fish and they had sex and that turned into a monkey that mutated and found another mutated monkey and they had sex and me and you were born. Tada! I can go to a mirror and look at my own eyeball and see that there is nothing random about creation.

A species can't turn into a different species. A fly can't turn into a honey bee, or a grizzly bear into a lion. It's absurd. Just another Luciferian lie to make us believe that we don't matter so we are more likely to act like animals and debase ourselves and each other. The whole Alister Crowley moto of, Do as thou wilt will be the whole of the law! Ef that. Freedom doesn't mean no rules, structure gives us the freedom to be safe and keeps us civilized.

The heavens are reflected in out own bodies, as above, so below. It starts with the constellation of Aries in our brain, then Taurus is the throat, Gemini is the shoulders, Cancer is the breasts, Leo the heart, Virgo the solar plexus, Libra the kidneys, Scorpio the genitals, Sagittarius the hips, Capricorn the knees, Aquarius the shins, and Pisces the feet.

I know Jesus is real because of the great campaign against him. Like I read yesterday that Brazil ruled to allow a Netflix movie depicting him as gay. Someone drew a cartoon of Mohammad and they were gunned down in the street in broad daylight, but it's ok to make a movie of Jesus being gay when the bible is clearly against sodomy. Do you want to know why? Because sodomy is how to be baptized in Luciferianism. That's why there's this big push to normalize it. My Jesuit Prime Minister is on record talking about how he just couldn't wait to lower the age of consent here in Canada. The bible says that anyone who hurts children or leads them astray should have a stone tied around their necks and be thrown in the lake. Dante puts sodomy and usury in the same level of hell, because sodomy takes what should be fruitful and makes it barren, and usury takes what should be barren and makes it fruitful.

I just don't see how anyone could know God and Jesus are real, and then choose the other side.
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I just don't see how anyone could know God and Jesus are real, and then choose the other side.
I agree with that eve though I'm a Christian who believes in both the Big Bang and evolution! But with a couple of caveats. I don't believe that the Big Bang came out of nothing. I believe in an eternal God and so the Big Bang came from that. But actually most physicists don't believe that the Big Bang came from nothing either. When physicists talk about 'nothing' they usually don't mean it in the sense that most people think of nothing, that is, as the absence of anything. They are usually talking about the state of quantum flux where everything's at it's lowest possible energy state (that's the extent of my understanding of it!) and that the Big Bang came out of a fluctuation of the quantum flux. But, whatever the quantum flux is, it's not nothing! You do hear quite a lot of people, even people such as Steven Hawking, claim that the universe came from absolutely nothing but I don't think even they would claim to know exactly how that could happen.

I also don't think evolution is incompatible with Christianity if you add in an allowance that something extra needed to create our consciousness. I just see evolution as the mechanism by which God brought our bodies and brains about but I do think that there is something special about consciousness, because it can't be explained in purely physical terms, that needs a separate creative act.

So I think often science is misrepresented and often by scientists themselves who want to make the case that everything is ultimately reducible to matter is explainable in terms of atoms and molecules. But even though people like Richard Dawkins and Steven Hawking are great scientists they are terrible philosophers. I read The God Delusion by Dawkins and in one of the chapters he tried to refute St. Thomas Aquinas's five arguments for God and it was obvious he didn't understand these arguments because he mis-represented them. And Aquinas's arguments are pretty much common sense - they just don't fit in with the materialist world view that Dawkins espouses. For example, the idea that only science is true is easily refuted in logical terms because it's what's called a self-refuting idea. The idea itself is not a scientific one. It is an statement about science and not a scientific theory. Therefore, by it's own account, it must be false!

It's such a shame that science is widely regarded nowadays as being in conflict with God. Historically, it never used to be. Most western scientists, even Galileo and Copernicus who are often thought of as wanting to overthrow Christianity, were actually Christians who regarded their work as exploring God's creation. It wasn't just that they thought science and religion are compatible: they believed that the idea of God actually supported science because it mean that the universe would be well-ordered, not just random. Laws of nature imply a law-giver.
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The thing with science is that they need funding and the people with the money always have agendas that they want pushed, so just like with most things in our material world, money corrupts it.

I feel like I've been lied to so much that I don't trust any of it anymore. I'll bring it back to that Jeffrey Epstein pimp pedophile creep who was funding all kinds of awful things, how many guys like him are out there?

So if evolution is real and a species can turn into another species, then how come we don't see any evidence of it today? The world is full of scientists yet not one has brought us an example of some fish climbing out of the sea since Darwin gave us his theory. Surely it must still be happening in nature all the time, humans can't be the only species that evolved into something else.

There is evidence of humans tampering with genetics and fooling around with DNA, which is Satanic, if you ask me. But I don't see it happening naturally, only purposefully, which to me, proves a creator.
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I don't believe in a purposeless evolutionary process either. In fact, the very idea is another self-refuting one. If Dawkins is right and we did evolve from a completely mindless and unguided natural processes, then how could we trust the reliability of our own thoughts? We would have to doubt the validity of any belief that we produce – including Dawkins’ own theory of evolution. It's just as if you believed that your laptop or whatever wasn't actually designed by anyone but just appeared as the result of a randomly governed manufacturing process. Would you then be able to have any confidence at all in using it to make a payment for something? Dawkins' neo-evolutionary views and his belief in materialism are at war with each other in a conflict that has nothing at all to do with God.

I believe in evolution as a physical mechanism (because that is what science tells us) but I believe it is a purposeful process designed by God to eventually bring creature like us about. I don't know enough about it to know why we don't still see it at work. Presumably because it operates over very long periods of time?
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I understand where you're coming from, I know my beliefs are unorthodox in today's world. Just last year I thought people who believed this stuff were soooooooooo stupid! Now I think the bible is the only thing worth putting my faith and trust in. But I've also been literally obsessed with spirituality and secret societies and conspiracies all year. I've learned so many crazy ideas and been down so many rabbit holes that I had my mind blown wide open.

I think there's a reason we've been passing down these stories for more than 2000 years. It's so we can navigate our way through this fallen world and the web of lies that are spun around us. We don't even know what's going on in today's real time, let alone what happened throughout history.

But I still think evolution falls apart under scrutiny. It just doesn't make sense. There would be real evidence of it, if was solid and not just some theory.
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