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DylanS 10-18-2013 06:31 AM

HAMS and SMART
 
I was just reading another thread where HAMS was mentioned. I followed the link and the tools (CBA, etc.) seem to be the same as SMART.

Are they the same?

Muns 10-23-2013 09:48 AM

I'm not familiar with smart but I have researched HAMS a lot and I have found good information there. For me at least. They tend to speak a method I identify with.

doggonecarl 10-23-2013 11:22 AM

HAMS is supposed to provide tools for safer drinking, reduced drinking, moderate drinking, or abstinence.

SMART recovery is an alternative to AA, but promotes abstinence, solely.

hypochondriac 10-23-2013 11:31 AM

I don't know but I am pretty sure HAMS just nicks tools from other abstinence type methods and tries to apply them to 'controlled/harm reduced' drinking. I once saw a description of AVRT on their site designed for use on 'alcohol free days'. Kinda funny I thought seeing as the idea behind AVRT only really works with abstinence. If you are constantly giving in to your AV how do you learn to recognise it?

ru12 10-23-2013 01:10 PM

Different strokes for different folks. Harm Reduction works for some. Others just need to stop the destructive behavior completely. Better is better.

MythOfSisyphus 10-23-2013 11:47 PM

I perused the website and while it's interesting I don't think it's for me. Limiting the harms of drinking got me nowhere; abstinence is the only approach that seems to help me at all.


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