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Old 08-10-2013, 04:03 PM
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AVRT and Emotions

Hello,

I am new to this site but have been browsing it for a couple of months. I made my BP about two weeks ago and have been learning slowly but surely to recognize my AV and turn the "you" into "it".

I have found this to be very helpful and it most often will turn a negative feeling off once I make the distinction.

What I do have a hard time with is when the Beast sends just pure emotion with no "words". Feelings of hopelessness, sadness, pain and even some tears welling up in my eyes.

I state to myself that I will Never drink again, and will never change my mind but this doesn't always work to dissipate the feelings.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Also if you notice any AV in my writing please do point it out.

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Old 08-10-2013, 05:29 PM
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What helps me during those times is the knowledge that through my experience, drinking during those times, no matter how awful they are, only worsens my attitude, understanding, and ability to accept. I take comfort in the belief that there is nothing my beast can do to ever make me drink.

As for dissipating the feelings, a little 'mindfulness' or sitting with my breath, helps me greatly.
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What I do have a hard time with is when the Beast sends just pure emotion with no "words". Feelings of hopelessness, sadness, pain and even some tears welling up in my eyes.
I can relate with your experience. For me, I realised my AV was using my own feelings against me in ways which had nothing to do with drinking of course, and that was the whole trick right there -- to get me to fall for the idea that those feelings had something to do with future drinking -- when of course they did not. It was all smoke and mirrors.

I can be difficult to separate ourselves from IT/AV. Difficult sometimes yes, but not impossible. Allowing oneself to be in the moment with their feelings can really make the whole thing much easier. Being in real time with oneself makes all the difference.

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I can see what you both mean by being more mindful and sitting with my feelings.

Though I already feel a bit better having typed that stuff out, I think I'm gonna do a bit of meditation now as well.

Thanks for the replies!
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Yeah, Addictive Voice is always about future drinking. And so when we separate ourselves from our AV by being as much as possible in the present moment, sitting with ourselves, we can more easily identify which feelings/thoughts support future drinking and which don't. It becomes simplistic then to sort ourselves by letting go of those future drinking ideations and feelings, just letting them pass, and concentrating and meditating on ourselves - those thoughts/feelings which have nothing to do with future drinking.

Success breeds success, and so with ongoing practice such meditations of separations become second nature and require less and less effort to achieve the same non-drinking results.

Identify. Separate. Move on. Success!
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Time is what I needed. Let's face it—sadness, regret, and fear were the emotions that led me to quit in the first place (does anyone decide to change their life because their happy?). My whole life didn't change the second I quit drinking, so naturally those emotions lingered for a time. But only for a time.

It's worth noting that AVRT is not designed to make us happy, or enrich our lives. It's meant to help us quit drinking for good, that's it. Personally I love that laser-like focus. Abstinence in turn made it possible for me to live a fuller, more contented and meaningful life.... but I still had to go out and find meaningful, fulfilling ways to spend my time.
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