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Old 10-16-2012, 03:57 AM
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Personality Type and Recovery

AVRT makes sense to me.
I understand that all that should be necessary is the ability to recognize addictive desire as separate from "me" and realize that "I" am the one who is in charge of my actions.

And yet I struggled.

I've always thought of myself as a rational, thinking being with big feelings. Indeed, my coworkers value my analytical thought processes and my loved ones are in turns amused by and irritated by my precision with language. ("Why do you have to restate what I say?" "Because I want to make sure I understand what you just said.")

I recently took the Myers Briggs personality assessment at work and was FLOORED to find that I was rated INFP. I mean, I always knew I was full of feelings, but I seriously thought I was going to rate high on the T (thinking) and/or J (judging/discerning from fact) scales.

So I said, "Oh, the day I took that test I was emotionally frazzled and in a rush." Both things were true. So I let some time go by, pondered, and read about this personality and how I supposedly interact with the world, with others and with the world. And you know... it sounded kinda right.

The other day, I was feeling strong and confident and said "Let me take one of these free online assessments. Do it quick without thinking while I feel more like myself. (That'll show me I am who I think I am!) And it came out... essentially the same - INFJ with only a moderate preference for J.

So here's the thing.

AVRT is surgically precise.
Make a committment, recognize the AV in your thoughts and you will neutralize the beast.
I love that. It's rational. It cuts out the crap. It makes sense to me.

And yet, I wasn't feeling it. (interesting phrasing, I noticed reading back)
Couldn't segregate me from it.

At the risk of sounding like I believe I'm unique, I believe I am unique.
This doesn't provide me with an excuse or immunity, it just explains (to me) that for some people maybe reason isn't enough. Maybe personality has something to do with how each of us approaches and utilizes AVRT (or any other method to get over addiction).

I spose ISTPs might think I'm full of it (the beast/AV), but being who they are, they wouldn't get it. We all gotta be who we are.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:29 AM
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Obladi, there is no need to parse your post for you-know-what because I think you are eminently capable of doing that for yourself.

I think you raise a very good point, that different approaches appeal to different personality types. I came to this understanding very early in my sobriety when I understood why I found it giving control of simple but important decisions to an external entity to be anathema. I learned that my locus of control is highly internal - I can still remember Ma telling me as a young child that 'You make your own breaks'.

I just did a quick online MBTI quiz, and came out ENFP, with only slight leanings to E, F and P, and moderate N. I don't fully understand what the implication might be, other than we are not all that different, Obladi, at least in this sense.

Are we each of us unique? Absolutely. I hope that it isn't a terminal condition
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:00 AM
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Obladi:

I'm an INFJ too. And here's an interesting factoid I gleaned from reading several books on the topic: INFJ is the rarest personality type. Only something like 1% of people have it. And overall, "NF" personalities are unusual (the two middle factors are the "core" of the personality).

I was really quite relieved to learn this, because I've known, all my life, that I don't quite perceive the world the way others do. Knowing that the difference is a simple matter of personality type has helped me to stop thinking of myself as being "right" and others "wrong" (or vice versa for that matter).

Another thing it has allowed me to do is to understand that at times, my perspective can be valuable to others--it truly can. Because the greatest value comes from being able to see things from different angles. And if my angle is different, and I express it, it adds to the picture we can all see.
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Originally Posted by Obladi View Post

AVRT is surgically precise.
Make a committment, recognize the AV in your thoughts and you will neutralize the beast.
I love that. It's rational. It cuts out the crap. It makes sense to me.
It makes sense to me too. I won't lie and say I've done much reading on AVRT but from what little I have read, I feel like it's a form of what I tried for 15 years. Rational. Logic. Right thinking. I just couldn't do it.

I use AA and not because I wanted to. I didn't want to in the least bit. Things like meditation and praying aren't logical to me ... all I know is that it's been working for me. I tend to over think things so when my mind starts to get all logical and rational when it comes to recovery, I force myself to stop and just continue on this path.

I have no doubt that our personality types help lead us to which ever path to recovery we end up on. I also have not doubt that our personality types prevent us from taking any path to recovery.

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**I just realized I posted this in Secular Connections. I wouldn't normally mention AA here but it's done. Please don't take offense to it.**
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Obladi,

Really interesting. I am an INFP (once in a while test as an INFJ) and yet, in spite of being spiritual (not religious), I find I am more drawn to the logical paths to recovery of SMART and RR. I've been thinking a lot about personality because I'm in a profession (law) that is very draining for NFs.
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INFP here
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:29 AM
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Anyone have a good site to suggest for a free online assessment?
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Ok, I just took one.

Here: Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology

Interesting, I am INFJ too.

I found this site which is very cool -- TypeLogic Home Page
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Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology
I have no idea of how consistent this may be with other tests, nor do I have the training to evaluate that idea, if I did.

Have at it, PaperDolls.
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Very cool.
Interesting that this topic attracted a bunch of inf types.
Not altogether surprising when you think about it, though.
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INFJ here.

I am comfortable with that I guess.
I read a bit about AVRT but it is not really suited to me - I am not good with the logical approach. I can understand how it works and why people are successful using it. I am an AA girl through and through

Strange really as my work is very logical and analytical - though I do try desperately to make it flexible.
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I freaking Jam on some questions for like 5 minutes. Guess I don't even know myself anymore now that I'm sober ;-(
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I did too thepatman ... I wanted a 'sometimes' option.

Interestingly, as I was answering, I realized that not to long ago, I would have answered differently to some of those questions.
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Thanks Paperdolls, You made me feel normal. LOL!
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Used to teach it at the University. Lots of J's here. P's probably forget to post.
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Ahem already again as well. ENFP.
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I have taken the Myers Briggs type indicator at work on 2 different occasions. Once as an IT Java developer and then again (years later) in a leadership role as an IT Project Manager. Both times I was an INFJ.

I took the assessment as part of a premarital assessment too. I, again, came out as an INFJ. I actually thought it was going to be different because I felt like I was answering some of the questions from a different perspective. Nope.

INFJ. The only reason I even remember what I was an INFJ type is that we had to put our type indicator with our name tag on our office door. It was supposed to help work place communication.

To this day, I really don't know what it really means. I think "I" means introvert, but I also know the definition of an introvert is often wrongly defined by people.



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Ennigram I'm a 4 wing 5
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Tammy: Portrait of an INFJ

I(introvert) doesn't (necessarily) mean shy or socially backwards. In the Myers Briggs framework, it means we get energy from within and being around people - at least too much - can be draining. E(xtrovert)s draw their energy from being around other people. They're the ones who like to call a meeting to brainstorm. We don't need to brainstorm; we instictively know the answer.
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