Doubt
Doubt
Hi friends!
Tonight I went to a christmas party. I drank my tonic water and lime, ate tons and had interesting conversations I enjoyed with people who were drinking and some were tipsy. I had planned on leaving early but was having a good time so stayed until 11:30 (which is still early if you consider I helped shut down the party at God kn ows what time last year).
My question/concern is not that I wanted to drink (no desire to drink, still, thank God)....my problem is that I feel like my experiences are so atypical that I am setting myself up for an epic fail....but I can't see how. Getting sober has been too easy. Yes, I am doing self improvement work, which is important....and I obviously spend a lot of time here...but that's pretty much it.
And its not like I wasn't a 'real alcoholic'....I drank 2 litders of wine a night for 5 years all while trying to stop and being unable.
I don't know if I am doing something wrong or reading too much here and comparing myself to others.
Just looking for some advice....thanks….
LaFemme (Tina)
Tonight I went to a christmas party. I drank my tonic water and lime, ate tons and had interesting conversations I enjoyed with people who were drinking and some were tipsy. I had planned on leaving early but was having a good time so stayed until 11:30 (which is still early if you consider I helped shut down the party at God kn ows what time last year).
My question/concern is not that I wanted to drink (no desire to drink, still, thank God)....my problem is that I feel like my experiences are so atypical that I am setting myself up for an epic fail....but I can't see how. Getting sober has been too easy. Yes, I am doing self improvement work, which is important....and I obviously spend a lot of time here...but that's pretty much it.
And its not like I wasn't a 'real alcoholic'....I drank 2 litders of wine a night for 5 years all while trying to stop and being unable.
I don't know if I am doing something wrong or reading too much here and comparing myself to others.
Just looking for some advice....thanks….
LaFemme (Tina)
I think some of us drink enough so that when we finally quit, we know it's time
I actually wasn't at peace with my decision when I quit, but I know lots of people who were...and still are.
If you're sober and you want to be that way, you're happy with that decision and it's changed your life and your sense of self for the better...that's what we're all looking for LOL
if it ain't broke...
D
I actually wasn't at peace with my decision when I quit, but I know lots of people who were...and still are.
If you're sober and you want to be that way, you're happy with that decision and it's changed your life and your sense of self for the better...that's what we're all looking for LOL
if it ain't broke...
D
Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxnard (The Nard), CA, USA.
Posts: 13,889
No, I've learned that addiction is idiosyncratic. Although a good many addict share a lot of commonalities, there is however just as many traits that are unique to the individual regarding addiction. Here's where to "know thy self" is key, and those that do the necessary self-exploratory work realize there is in fact some significant differences between those that have an addiction.
IMO, just as there are many paths to recovery, there are just as many individual needs in recovery. Going beyond the general recovery speak, that as a whole holds one to be overtly cautious. There are individual strengths one can have that otherwise would be overlooked in recovery speak or not present in others. A general rule of thumb in emphasized just to keep things on the safe side.
And that's the problem with cookie cutter ( had to get the cookie thing in) recovery modalities. The individual often gets overlooked so that the whole cookie program maintains its integrity. With group speak and universal truths. Remember many in recovery deal with a closed system of recovery truths where uniqueness is frowned down upon. And unique strengths are not explored.
IMO, just as there are many paths to recovery, there are just as many individual needs in recovery. Going beyond the general recovery speak, that as a whole holds one to be overtly cautious. There are individual strengths one can have that otherwise would be overlooked in recovery speak or not present in others. A general rule of thumb in emphasized just to keep things on the safe side.
And that's the problem with cookie cutter ( had to get the cookie thing in) recovery modalities. The individual often gets overlooked so that the whole cookie program maintains its integrity. With group speak and universal truths. Remember many in recovery deal with a closed system of recovery truths where uniqueness is frowned down upon. And unique strengths are not explored.
Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 15
My first thought was - relax and enjoy the gift of ease you are finding today. Because nothing stays the same, and at some point you may turn a corner and find yourself unexpectedly uneasy with recovery. Dealing with the reality of this moment (rather than the past or future) is the best option I have for peace. It ain't easy, but for those brief moments that I can do it, it's grand indeed.
I had a little sign in my bathroom for years that said "Much of our unhappiness comes as the result of comparing ourselves to others." So true for me. I remember the first time a counselor said to me, you have to let go of the concept of normal....I was like, uh...?? But after a while I got it. Now the trick is to remember it!
Kristen
I had a little sign in my bathroom for years that said "Much of our unhappiness comes as the result of comparing ourselves to others." So true for me. I remember the first time a counselor said to me, you have to let go of the concept of normal....I was like, uh...?? But after a while I got it. Now the trick is to remember it!
Kristen
No, I've learned that addiction is idiosyncratic. Although a good many addict share a lot of commonalities, there is however just as many traits that are unique to the individual regarding addiction. Here's where to "know thy self" is key, and those that do the necessary self-exploratory work realize there is in fact some significant differences between those that have an addiction.
IMO, just as there are many paths to recovery, there are just as many individual needs in recovery. Going beyond the general recovery speak, that as a whole holds one to be overtly cautious. There are individual strengths one can have that otherwise would be overlooked in recovery speak or not present in others. A general rule of thumb in emphasized just to keep things on the safe side.
And that's the problem with cookie cutter ( had to get the cookie thing in) recovery modalities. The individual often gets overlooked so that the whole cookie program maintains its integrity. With group speak and universal truths. Remember many in recovery deal with a closed system of recovery truths where uniqueness is frowned down upon. And unique strengths are not explored.
IMO, just as there are many paths to recovery, there are just as many individual needs in recovery. Going beyond the general recovery speak, that as a whole holds one to be overtly cautious. There are individual strengths one can have that otherwise would be overlooked in recovery speak or not present in others. A general rule of thumb in emphasized just to keep things on the safe side.
And that's the problem with cookie cutter ( had to get the cookie thing in) recovery modalities. The individual often gets overlooked so that the whole cookie program maintains its integrity. With group speak and universal truths. Remember many in recovery deal with a closed system of recovery truths where uniqueness is frowned down upon. And unique strengths are not explored.
That's why I think it's so important that we share our personal experiences honestly, so others can truly get a view of the wide variety of experiences people actually have.
The first holiday season I went through after I quit drinking is a good example of this. I was a few months along then and felt much like you do--that it was too easy--until some very wise person said "life is hard enough without complaining when things are GOOD! Besides...you never know what tomorrow will bring."
And indeed, the hardest point in my early sobriety was actually at the end of my first year...and the hardest point in my life since I got sober was when I had about 5 years (but by then, it didn't even cross my mind to drink).
So...be kind to yourself and rejoice when times are good. :day6
OTT
Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 191
My first thought was - relax and enjoy the gift of ease you are finding today. Because nothing stays the same, and at some point you may turn a corner and find yourself unexpectedly uneasy with recovery. Dealing with the reality of this moment (rather than the past or future) is the best option I have for peace. It ain't easy, but for those brief moments that I can do it, it's grand indeed.
I had a little sign in my bathroom for years that said "Much of our unhappiness comes as the result of comparing ourselves to others." So true for me. I remember the first time a counselor said to me, you have to let go of the concept of normal....I was like, uh...?? But after a while I got it. Now the trick is to remember it!
Kristen
I had a little sign in my bathroom for years that said "Much of our unhappiness comes as the result of comparing ourselves to others." So true for me. I remember the first time a counselor said to me, you have to let go of the concept of normal....I was like, uh...?? But after a while I got it. Now the trick is to remember it!
Kristen
Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 20,458
There is a quote from somewhere that I like to follow....
"We either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves strong....The amount of work is the same".
maybe you are overthinking things?...we all know that stuff happens, circumstances change....you have been proactive and working on yourself, taking a sensible approach to your problems....enjoy your sobriety and your hard work....congrats on being a good example for many of us.
"We either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves strong....The amount of work is the same".
maybe you are overthinking things?...we all know that stuff happens, circumstances change....you have been proactive and working on yourself, taking a sensible approach to your problems....enjoy your sobriety and your hard work....congrats on being a good example for many of us.
Tina, is this something you have to figure out right now?
When you are ready to understand it, you will. In the mean time, enjoy your piece of mind, and keep working your recovery. You are an inspiration to me.
When you are ready to understand it, you will. In the mean time, enjoy your piece of mind, and keep working your recovery. You are an inspiration to me.
Thanks everyone! I don't know why this thought got in my head and started driving me nuts....I used to tell a friend who is a worry sort to " stop borrowing trouble "...looks like I need to take my own advice...and all of y'alls too:-)
Thanks for always being there...I feel better today. I will try not to look my gift horse in the mouth...and I will be happy that things are going well...geez...when I put it that way it sounds stupid to do anything else!
Thanks for always being there...I feel better today. I will try not to look my gift horse in the mouth...and I will be happy that things are going well...geez...when I put it that way it sounds stupid to do anything else!
Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,237
LaFemme, I've been feeling the same way!!! I'm closing in on my first year and I've heard people go to meetings like 5 x a day and so on...I've worked on myself, read books, practice meditation,go to classes...tried AA..and sometimes I feel like I'm not doing enough...to remain sober....maybe we are so accustomed to having to work so hard at things that when our sobriety clicks it just feels to easy? Thanks for your post I really needed it
So getting sober was easy, despite the numerous failed attempts and years spend drinking 2 liters of wine a day while trying to quit. First that doesn't sound especially easy. Second have you ever thought of those as practice runs at sobriety? That's how I see it. I would "quit" and keep using, I did it many times. But when I finally put it down and enough was enough and this time for the first and only time I actually meant it,felt it in my heart and I was done... Well quitting became one of the easiest things I've ever done. I occasionally still think I could do some drugs, "man that would be fun" but it's a fleeting thought. It's not a desire for drugs but really a desire for the selfish lifestyle I had and lack of concern for anything and anyone around me. It's usually just because I'm stressing out and really don't feel like dealing with my responsibilities.
That's my take on my relative ease getting clean.
"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt." -Will Shakespeare. Good dude, knew his iambic pentameter.
That's my take on my relative ease getting clean.
"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt." -Will Shakespeare. Good dude, knew his iambic pentameter.
I think gneiss has a great point - and moreso, you and LO2L are here a lot LaF - always sharing your experience and helping others - if thats not working on your sobriety I dunno what is.
D
D
Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 46
Hi LaFemme,
I can identify with you a lot. I tried and tried and tried again to stay abstinent from alcohol and drugs, but it was usually very shaky, and I could not stay comfortably off cigarettes at all. I have quit everything now, without any support at all, and most of the time, it is effortless. Thing is though, I have known many people who quit their addictions without any support, and they found it relatively easy, because they simply had enough pain and hassle. Many people are like that.
I can identify with you a lot. I tried and tried and tried again to stay abstinent from alcohol and drugs, but it was usually very shaky, and I could not stay comfortably off cigarettes at all. I have quit everything now, without any support at all, and most of the time, it is effortless. Thing is though, I have known many people who quit their addictions without any support, and they found it relatively easy, because they simply had enough pain and hassle. Many people are like that.
Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxnard (The Nard), CA, USA.
Posts: 13,889
Hi LaFemme,
I can identify with you a lot. I tried and tried and tried again to stay abstinent from alcohol and drugs, but it was usually very shaky, and I could not stay comfortably off cigarettes at all. I have quit everything now, without any support at all, and most of the time, it is effortless. Thing is though, I have known many people who quit their addictions without any support, and they found it relatively easy, because they simply had enough pain and hassle. Many people are like that.
I can identify with you a lot. I tried and tried and tried again to stay abstinent from alcohol and drugs, but it was usually very shaky, and I could not stay comfortably off cigarettes at all. I have quit everything now, without any support at all, and most of the time, it is effortless. Thing is though, I have known many people who quit their addictions without any support, and they found it relatively easy, because they simply had enough pain and hassle. Many people are like that.
I've seen it happen to a friend of mine. Bottom drunk if there ever was one. Then one day he starts putting a red X on his calender to mark the sober days. The days turn to years, he moves back home to TE from CA, rejoins his family after decades of alcoholism. Rejoins his church form childhood, and now sends me recordings of his gospel music. He was always a talented artiest...but his drunkenness killed all that when he was lost in the bottle. One Eyed Bob is his name. Still an inspiration to me this day...bless him.
From what Tina has shared, I would say she has taken some pretty positive and powerful steps to change her life and thinking toward drinking.
Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)