Triggers and coping strategies
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Shih Tzus eat poop? I mean, really... they name a breed Shih Tzu and wonder about such things?
Dunno about AA, I just thought I'd chime in about journaling. I love it. I don't journal every night, but fairly often. I use it when I need it, sometimes I'll skip an entire month, sometimes I'll scribble ten pages in a night.
And I mean actual journals, not typing it into my laptop. There's something about actually writing it out that is ten times better than typing for me. It gets it out of my system, and it's in my own handwriting so it's more personal. I feel more connected to it when I wrote it down. In my mind typing is for formal documents, things my prof is about to read. Notes to friends and journals should always be handwritten when possible.
Dunno about AA, I just thought I'd chime in about journaling. I love it. I don't journal every night, but fairly often. I use it when I need it, sometimes I'll skip an entire month, sometimes I'll scribble ten pages in a night.
And I mean actual journals, not typing it into my laptop. There's something about actually writing it out that is ten times better than typing for me. It gets it out of my system, and it's in my own handwriting so it's more personal. I feel more connected to it when I wrote it down. In my mind typing is for formal documents, things my prof is about to read. Notes to friends and journals should always be handwritten when possible.
Yes, journaling is important, but I only take the time to write things down when they are bad. I have started a journal on my computer and password protected it. One of my things is what if I die and someone reads it? I guess that's why I like the computer idea.
Well, thanks for the insight!
I created an online blog during my first year of sobriety and it was a tremendous help to me. It often felt like I was vomiting out the words literally cleansing myself. The blog is fairly anonymous and I actually hope that someone in desparation may find it online and that it will help them if only to know that they are not alone. Journaling has always been how I have coped I often wrote when I was drunk out of my mind and although it was difficult to read because my handwritting would be all over the place it was good for me to be able to read it after the fact. I remember prior to getting sober reading some of the journals and realizing that they hadn't changed much in 10 years different names same problems.
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Thanks, I bought some of those Deter pills and they really didn't work (the idea is to make their poo taste bad). I've heard pineapple juice and meat tenderizer will work, but I asked my Vet and he said puppies will do this and sometimes outgrow it. He said it wasn't a vitamin deficiency but just normal. Eew! On a positive note, I am trying to take it in stride and it isn't a trigger for me EGADS, now my puppies just chewed up and broke my glasses - my $140 glasses and I really liked them. Now I am NOT happy.
I'd be more worried about someone reading it while I was alive. If I die and someone reads it... well good. I'll be worm food, I don't really care if they read it once I'm dead. There are no consequences for my thoughts once I'm dead. There's nothing anyone can do to me other than maybe think I'm a jerk. But... who cares? There are a few people who think that anyway.
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AA can cause me big problems. There some people in my CBT treatment group at the clinic that share about AA. Sometimes I have to bite my thong when they do. Because I still get intrusive traumatic memories of my past compulsory religious involvement as a child when I hear the AA line. Try as I might I still can't separate AA from religion in my mind. Over time this anger I have has gotten a bit relaxed as long as I limit my exposure to AA. On a rational level I can ease my emotional response somewhat but haven't found any effective way to lessen the intrusive memories that suddenly fire up my emotional state.
Although one thing I found to be of some help is to state my beliefs openly in group soon after my anger response is triggered by those that share their AA experience. I try very hard to be respectful but boldly point out my alternative treatment program in contrast to AA's program. I think it helps me to reinforce my program as I hear it said by me in group. Plus I think it stimulates other group members to share their treatment program. Which many of them work a uniquely personalized program of recovery...ah thank goodness for that .
Although one thing I found to be of some help is to state my beliefs openly in group soon after my anger response is triggered by those that share their AA experience. I try very hard to be respectful but boldly point out my alternative treatment program in contrast to AA's program. I think it helps me to reinforce my program as I hear it said by me in group. Plus I think it stimulates other group members to share their treatment program. Which many of them work a uniquely personalized program of recovery...ah thank goodness for that .
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Ok, I went to my group tonight. AA is a HUGE trigger for me in terms of wanting to pick up a drink. People can argue with that all they want, but it is what it is. Two new people start next week and I am just praying (well, not exactly) that they will be like me (of a secular bent or at least not interested in AA), as I am outnumbered already. Anyway, I just sort of shut down and get real quiet when in a situation like that. I just want to get up and walk out and I might have to for my own sanity. Can anyone help me to deal with this? Has anyone ever heard that saying the cure is worse than the sickness? That is how I feel in this minute. In fact, tonight I was reading my assignment on triggers and coping strategies and I intentionally did NOT mention AA is a trigger for me, as I didn't want to alienate everyone in the group. So I am avoiding saying how I really feel in the group's interest, but it sure isn't in my best interest. Thoughts maybe?
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AA can cause me big problems. There some people in my CBT treatment group at the clinic that share about AA. Sometimes I have to bite my thong when they do. Because I still get intrusive traumatic memories of my past compulsory religious involvement as a child when I hear the AA line. Try as I might I still can't separate AA from religion in my mind. Over time this anger I have has gotten a bit relaxed as long as I limit my exposure to AA. On a rational level I can ease my emotional response somewhat but haven't found any effective way to lessen the intrusive memories that suddenly fire up my emotional state.
Although one thing I found to be of some help is to state my beliefs openly in group soon after my anger response is triggered by those that share their AA experience. I try very hard to be respectful but boldly point out my alternative treatment program in contrast to AA's program. I think it helps me to reinforce my program as I hear it said by me in group. Plus I think it stimulates other group members to share their treatment program. Which many of them work a uniquely personalized program of recovery...ah thank goodness for that .
Although one thing I found to be of some help is to state my beliefs openly in group soon after my anger response is triggered by those that share their AA experience. I try very hard to be respectful but boldly point out my alternative treatment program in contrast to AA's program. I think it helps me to reinforce my program as I hear it said by me in group. Plus I think it stimulates other group members to share their treatment program. Which many of them work a uniquely personalized program of recovery...ah thank goodness for that .
I believe that journaling in long-hand is more of a release. I used to be really worried someone might find it and know how nuts I really am so I used shorthand. My handwriting is bad enough so I knew the steno script would be impossible for anyone else to transcribe!
Have you thought about doing any kind of volunteer work? I used to do accounting for a local food bank once a week. It helped me feel like a I was doing a service for my community and feel more connected to the world.
Do you have a YWCA nearby? Or a community college? I took some exercise classes that helped work off tensions.
I think flylady rocks! I am hoping to get new shelf paper down in the kitchen cabinets. I think anything I can do to make my personal environment more orderly and clean helps me. Also, having a daily routine helps too.
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Have you thought about doing any kind of volunteer work? I used to do accounting for a local food bank once a week. It helped me feel like a I was doing a service for my community and feel more connected to the world.
Do you have a YWCA nearby? Or a community college? I took some exercise classes that helped work off tensions.
I think flylady rocks! I am hoping to get new shelf paper down in the kitchen cabinets. I think anything I can do to make my personal environment more orderly and clean helps me. Also, having a daily routine helps too.
Love,
Lenina
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AA could probably be a trigger for me in certain circumstances, I guess that's why I stay clear. I don't appreciated the little phrases learned by heart that they deal out, even when or if they are accurate. I don't do well at all with god or spiritual or whatever. I do like the general good humor they all seem to cultivate. I think I would tell everyone that they were not going to convert me, that I respect their views, just please do not push them on me, then I'd probably just shut up and suffer(or not if they chose to be conciliant)
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Have you thought about doing any kind of volunteer work? I used to do accounting for a local food bank once a week. It helped me feel like a I was doing a service for my community and feel more connected to the world.
Do you have a YWCA nearby? Or a community college? I took some exercise classes that helped work off tensions.
I think flylady rocks! I am hoping to get new shelf paper down in the kitchen cabinets. I think anything I can do to make my personal environment more orderly and clean helps me. Also, having a daily routine helps too.
Love,
Lenina
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Flylady has a great plan for house cleaning and organization. Here's her website: FlyLady.net: Your personal online coach to help you gain control of your house and home. It's free and has really helped me get a handle on keeping my house tidy.
Check it out!
Love,
Lenina
Check it out!
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Ok, I cannot handle all this AA stuff. I am not making excuses, rather I abhor the "program." So, to this end, I need to vent rather than pick up a drink. I truly despise all of this AA stuff. I have had 32 years of this stuff. It has damaged me greatly, to the extent I had an AA member, who smoked crack, come to my house and for the first time in five years of living here, the police were called on me. (BTW, I have NEVER had the police called on me in my lifetime.) I am NOT that kind of girl, hence my belief that I wish the drug users would just go to NA. Ok, not popular, and this may get deleted, but I am really pissed off. There IS a difference between alcoholics and crack users. Ok, this is my truth and, since I cannot express this in my group, I'll stick by it. And I know this, as this whole addiction thing hits on different neurotransitters. Dopamine versus Serontonin, so I am scientically based.
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Katie,
I am not an AA person but found some of the theories helpful. What exactly do you detest? The people? The God-stuff? I just took what I needed and left the rest.
My opinion is AA is a business plan for staying sober. I do believe it's more male-centered.
What are your thoughts?
Love,
Lenina
I am not an AA person but found some of the theories helpful. What exactly do you detest? The people? The God-stuff? I just took what I needed and left the rest.
My opinion is AA is a business plan for staying sober. I do believe it's more male-centered.
What are your thoughts?
Love,
Lenina
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Hey Katie, yoga is great..it is relaxing and a workout at the same time. Although I am athletic I am not graceful..so I just follow the CD and workout by myself in my living room, that way if I look stupid than the only person to see it is me!
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Katie,
I am not an AA person but found some of the theories helpful. What exactly do you detest? The people? The God-stuff? I just took what I needed and left the rest.
My opinion is AA is a business plan for staying sober. I do believe it's more male-centered.
What are your thoughts?
Love,
Lenina
I am not an AA person but found some of the theories helpful. What exactly do you detest? The people? The God-stuff? I just took what I needed and left the rest.
My opinion is AA is a business plan for staying sober. I do believe it's more male-centered.
What are your thoughts?
Love,
Lenina
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