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Old 09-29-2011, 07:38 PM
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:12 AM
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LifeRing Secular Recovery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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http://www.liferingcanada.org/Meetin...ingOntario.pdf

Thanks, Zencat. I have a lot to read here, but I like what I see already. The story of Procrustes serves well as a hook-in. Well done, Doorknob.

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Old 09-30-2011, 06:47 AM
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Though LifeRing is not my cup of tea, since it uses a lot of "sharing" and relies on meetings, the first chapter in LifeRing founder Martin Nicolaus' book, "Empowering your Sober Self" talks of addiction as conflict. The divided self, along with the "sober self" and "addicted self" analogy is eerily reminiscent of the I/IT split in AVRT, and although he did not mention AVRT, I know that the author must be aware of this. He seems to have done his homework on this idea, and his book was written 13 years after the RR book.

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CHAPTER ONE: A PERSON ADDICTED IS A PERSON IN CONFLICT
The Divided Self
The Divided Self is a Clinical Reality
Addictive Substances Hijack the Brain
The Impact on Our Lives
“A” (Addicted Self) Versus “S” (The Sober Self)
A Radical Simplification
In Conflict Lies Hope
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:04 AM
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Regarding my post above, I spoke too soon. I just went back and read the notes for Chapter One at the end of the book, and Nicolaus does indeed list Jack Trimpey's "Rational Recovery: The New Cure for Substance Addiction" as a reference for that chapter.
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:22 AM
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Old 10-01-2011, 07:04 AM
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Though LifeRing is not my cup of tea, since it uses a lot of "sharing" and relies on meetings, the first chapter in LifeRing founder Martin Nicolaus' book, "Empowering your Sober Self" talks of addiction as conflict. The divided self, along with the "sober self" and "addicted self" analogy is eerily reminiscent of the I/IT split in AVRT, and although he did not mention AVRT, I know that the author must be aware of this. He seems to have done his homework on this idea, and his book was written 13 years after the RR book.

From the Table of Contents:

CHAPTER ONE: A PERSON ADDICTED IS A PERSON IN CONFLICT
The Divided Self
The Divided Self is a Clinical Reality
Addictive Substances Hijack the Brain
The Impact on Our Lives
A (Addicted Self) Versus S (The Sober Self)
A Radical Simplification
In Conflict Lies Hope
Wow. Intuitively this makes a lot of sense to me. I'd usually be pretty mean when I was using, not because I was mad at the people around me, but I was mad at myself. It was strange. I'd hate doing it, I'd be so mad at myself, I wouldn't want to do drugs. But I would use anyway. In a way I felt like I had 2 personalities at work in my head. Perhaps reading some of these would have made my life a little easier. But... never been one to do stuff the easy way. Thanks TU.
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