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Old 03-20-2009, 10:39 AM
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Gaffle, gank, jack, swipe, steal, loot, lol...
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:56 AM
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Wow I just learned three new words ! But I am getting off topic, however the idea of a cheesecake HP sounds interesting ! Tell me more !
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by californiapoppy View Post
Ok thanks Spark, you cleared it up for me. God exists for those who have faith. So some people have one (or more) and some people don't. It's so simple, now. Can you explain quantum physics to me?
my sarcasm detector is buzzing....

I don't believe i suggested that gods exist for those who have faith,.. Perhaps you misunderstood the douglas adams quote - it's meant as a light hearted joke about faith and proof of existence...

as far as i'm concerned, invisible pink unicorns don't exist, the dragon in my garage doesn't exist, regardless of whether or not people believe in them...

"a lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it. The truth is still the truth, even if no-one believes it."
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:39 AM
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is that what that buzzing sound is? I thought it was dragon wings.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:40 AM
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OK dK what is gaffle????

would you all quit using big words!!!!!
you can talk! They're huge words!
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fubarcdn View Post
You guys think and read too much. It will drive you crazy.
I say what it is is what it is and there is no advantage to figuring it out but then again it leaves little to discuss.
I guess that is why I am such a loner.
well that's up to you of course mate.... Personally i enjoy thinking about stuff, learning about stuff, and figuring stuff out...
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:57 PM
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I meant no offense Spark. It is just that I am not the brightest so I have to see things in simpler terms.
I admire people who are more intellectual than I am in all honesty.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:04 PM
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I might have to gaffle that from you for a while.
Ha! Where do you think I "found" it?

It's all yours.
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fubarcdn View Post
I meant no offense Spark. It is just that I am not the brightest so I have to see things in simpler terms.
I admire people who are more intellectual than I am in all honesty.
none taken buddy!
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bamboozle View Post
One can find the same (or better) arguments/info for free while cruising the web.
just wanted to share this and thought this'd be the best place.

I'd heard of this essay, but never read it - but managed to find it the other day...

I'm sure some of you will have read it before, but for those who haven't, i recommend it! It's a great read, well written, brilliantly argued, and good humoured too.

Bertrand Russell: Why I Am Not a Christian (1927);
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_di..._christian.htm

i'm linking it for no reason other than secular types might find it interesting.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fubarcdn View Post
I meant no offense Spark. It is just that I am not the brightest so I have to see things in simpler terms.
I admire people who are more intellectual than I am in all honesty.
Same here, I knows what I knows but I am not very good at explaining why, lol. I need things simple, like me.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by spark42 View Post
just wanted to share this and thought this'd be the best place.

I'd heard of this essay, but never read it - but managed to find it the other day...

I'm sure some of you will have read it before, but for those who haven't, i recommend it! It's a great read, well written, brilliantly argued, and good humoured too.

Bertrand Russell: Why I Am Not a Christian (1927);
Why I'm not a Christian

i'm linking it for no reason other than secular types might find it interesting.
I am too lazy (also don't have much powers of concentration) to read it I am afraid. I did have "The God Delusion" on audiobook but I found Dawkins' smug voice annoying. I get things on audio cos I don't have the concentration to read for long.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:50 AM
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I did have "The God Delusion" on audiobook but I found Dawkins' smug voice annoying.
His smugness is apparent in his writing.

Although, I did see one of his Christmas series lectures (I can't remember who hosted it), and it was pretty good. It was done in the 90's(?) and it was geared towards kids, but I liked it.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:29 AM
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I didn't see that but it was probably The Royal Institutes Xmas lectures, I watched quite a few of them years ago, they are aimed at kids but still good.

I read the Selfish Gene when I was about 19 too, I liked it.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:43 AM
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He can be a bit smug, but I love him anyway, he is a cool old dude!
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:44 AM
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Personally i don't find him smug at all - he just doesn't mince his words...

But that's just a matter of personal taste imho, no reflection on what he's actually saying.

I find Christopher Hitchens comes across as quite patronising and supercilious, but i agree with a lot of what he says regarding religion.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:33 AM
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Personally i don't find him smug at all - he just doesn't mince his words...
I agree with what he says. Have you heard the audiobook? He sounds smuuuhug!
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:42 AM
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Morning all. I have no idea about any of the books/lectures that you are discussing but love that about SR - I get to find out so many new things.. Will be googling The God Delusion shortly.
Thanks Spark for the link to the B Russell essay - will check it out.
Just want to check in here in the secular world and see how everyone is.

Isn't it good having Bam back?

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Old 03-23-2009, 11:05 AM
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I don't know what people are talking about either. You all sound so educated on the subject. I've tried reading philosophy and couldn't get into it.. but not too many.. just Neitzche (spelling?) and the Greeks! I don't care too much about the specific arguments for or against God.. more interested in the insidious influence of fundamentalism on public policy. These people are dangerous.They do stuff like go to African countries ravaged by AIDS and tell them that condoms don't work. hmmmm
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:57 AM
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I don't care too much about the specific arguments for or against God.. more interested in the insidious influence of fundamentalism on public policy. These people are dangerous.They do stuff like go to African countries ravaged by AIDS and tell them that condoms don't work. hmmmm


Big thanks for this.

I don't care what people believe, as long as they aren't trying to control my life in any way and as long as they leave others alone. Religious people with an agenda scare me.
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