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Old 12-02-2006, 07:33 PM
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12 Step Question

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What secular Steps do you use and what other secular knowledge do you use to stay sober?

I find a lot of wisdom in quotes.

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Old 12-03-2006, 04:37 AM
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Hi Ab

From the archives:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...p/t-97270.html



I've seen many rewritten versions of the original AA 12 steps. The basic framework seems to be helpful for a lot of people. It does seem to me that all of these tend to rely on an external locus of control.

I adhere to the premise that my addiction to alcohol can be dealt with more appropriately from an internal locus of control, therefore the Smart(SELF Management and Recovery Training) program is the main method on which I base my recovery.

Not so many quotes on the Smart website, but lots of acronyms,lol.

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Old 12-03-2006, 05:10 AM
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I don't use any steps. Well, I use one step that I invented for myself.

Step 1 - Don't do dope.

If I work step one then I really don't need all that other crap.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:24 AM
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I like your 1 step program Windy.

It really cuts to the chase.

That's what it all boils down to.

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Nice one Windy. The rest is garnish.

My attention span is too short for quotations to be of much use.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:27 AM
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Hi Mongo

Some quotess that I like:

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.

---Buddha

The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time

---Abraham Lincoln. 16th U.S. president


We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.

---Aristotle


Total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation.

---St. Augustine


Accept the things to which fate binds you, and love the people with whom fate brings you together, but do so with all your heart.

--- Marcus Aelius Aurelius (121-180 AD), Roman emperor, philosopher



There are many others also

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Hi Ab

From the archives:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...p/t-97270.html



I've seen many rewritten versions of the original AA 12 steps. The basic framework seems to be helpful for a lot of people. It does seem to me that all of these tend to rely on an external locus of control.

I adhere to the premise that my addiction to alcohol can be dealt with more appropriately from an internal locus of control, therefore the Smart(SELF Management and Recovery Training) program is the main method on which I base my recovery.

Not so many quotes on the Smart website, but lots of acronyms,lol.

Ron
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Dr. Lizardking's Adaptation of the Twelve Steps for the Rationalist

1. In recognition of the detriment that my addiction has caused, I have a
firm unyielding commitment to stay clean and sober in all circumstances, no
exceptions.

2. I understand that some situations may require a little help from my
friends, or professional guidance, I'm willing to accept that help which I
find to be beneficial to my recovery.

3. Work to make changes in my life and develop a different life-style that
is more conducive to sobriety.

4. Acquire awareness of my behaviors, and build a firm understanding of
those behaviors that are advantageous to my continued sobriety.

5. Exchange information with others in order to expand my understanding of
behaviors and attitudes that create a higher quality of life.

6. Establish reasonable and attainable goals in order to grow and learn in
my journey.

7. Work toward those goals to the best of my ability.

8. Discover the damages that I have done in the past that may be an obstacle
to my further growth and/or my emotional well-being.

9. Do what is possible and reasonable to repair such damages.

10. Maintain an awareness of my behavior and attitudes, avoid any actions
that may be detrimental to myself or others.

11. Increase my level of self-awareness, body of knowledge, and ability to
think clearly. I take full responsibility for all my behaviors and actions.
I learn from my experiences, and the experiences and knowledge of others. I
look to the future with an optimistic curiosity.

12. I use the knowledge, experience, and understanding that I have gained to
offer assistance to those that have the desire to achieve sobriety.
Respecting such persons' autonomy and well-being, my only concern is for
their success in sobriety and improved quality of life.

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Old 12-03-2006, 10:07 AM
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Dr. Lizardking? Who dat.

I did a brief google and came up with a 21 yo ravers blog and a genocidal scientist.

Inquiring minds....

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Old 12-03-2006, 10:25 AM
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LMAO!

It was posted on LSRmail some years ago:

Hi Folks,

Dr. Lizardking is my alter ego whom I invoke when I feel like presenting
information from an authoritative source. As we all know non-theistic
thinkers have ended up in the 12-step program. The question about using the
steps without a supernatural force keeping us sober has been a source of
philosophical discussion since the very beginning of the AA program. I find
that Dr. Lizardking is quite good at providing useful information in these
matters. So, without further ado, here is Dr. Lizardking:
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:59 PM
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The Lizard King was Jim Morrison, from the 60s/70s rock band The Doors.

DK, your rationalist 12 step is pretty cool.
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I agree with windy's version.

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Old 12-26-2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BSPGirl View Post
I agree with windy's version.

Marte

It is an easy program.
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