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☯ List of Secular 12 Step Programs
Step 1:
There is a big gap between what I do and how I want to be. My life is spinning out of control.
Step 2:
To get a grip, I need to find a gentle and open way to be with myself.
To find myself, moment by moment, I take a mindful pause.
Step 4:
I look at my life systematically, to see patterns in how I have been relating to people and situations.
Step 5:
I look at my behavior patterns with compassion, to understand the emotional logic behind them.
Step 6:
I see how my behavior patterns have been ways of coping with what feels overwhelming.
Step 7:
I learn to accept the sense of vulnerability that comes from facing what feels overwhelming.
Step 8:
I explore alternative behaviors and rehearse them in safe settings.
Step 9:
I apply these new mindful behaviors in my everyday life.
Step 10:
I keep paying attention to the causes and effects of my actions, and act accordingly
Step 11:
I keep facing reality mindfully, moment by moment, with a mindful pause.
Step 12:
My life reflects a growing sense of respect and compassion for myself and others.
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Buddism 12 Steps.
https://bffct.org/bff/our-buddhist-12-steps/
First Principle: Acceptance. We admitted we were powerless–that our lives had become unmanageable.
Second Principle: Confidence. We came to believe that a power other than our ego could restore us to sanity.
Third Principle: Surrender. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of a power other than our ego.
Fourth Principle: Self Examination. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Fifth Principle: Self Honesty: We admitted to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Sixth Principle: Willingness. We were entirely ready to have the power other than our ego remove foolish aspects of our character.
Seventh Principle: Humility. We humbly asked the power other than our ego to shed the foolishness within ourselves
Eighth Principle: Forgiveness. We made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.
Ninth Principle: Restitution. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Tenth Principle: Admission. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Eleventh Principle: Seeking. We sought through deep hearing, prayer, and meditation to be transformed by a power other than our ego and to realize our inner potential of faith, wisdom, and compassion.
Twelfth Principle: Unconditional Love. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others that suffer, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
https://bffct.org/bff/our-buddhist-12-steps/
First Principle: Acceptance. We admitted we were powerless–that our lives had become unmanageable.
Second Principle: Confidence. We came to believe that a power other than our ego could restore us to sanity.
Third Principle: Surrender. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of a power other than our ego.
Fourth Principle: Self Examination. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Fifth Principle: Self Honesty: We admitted to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Sixth Principle: Willingness. We were entirely ready to have the power other than our ego remove foolish aspects of our character.
Seventh Principle: Humility. We humbly asked the power other than our ego to shed the foolishness within ourselves
Eighth Principle: Forgiveness. We made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.
Ninth Principle: Restitution. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Tenth Principle: Admission. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Eleventh Principle: Seeking. We sought through deep hearing, prayer, and meditation to be transformed by a power other than our ego and to realize our inner potential of faith, wisdom, and compassion.
Twelfth Principle: Unconditional Love. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others that suffer, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
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Testing and oops missing 3th step with bad font size formatting.
To find myself, moment by moment, I take a mindful pause.
I look at my life systematically, to see patterns in how I have been relating to people and situations.
Step 1:
There is a big gap between what I do and how I want to be. My life is spinning out of control.
Step 2:
To get a grip, I need to find a gentle and open way to be with myself.
To find myself, moment by moment, I take a mindful pause.
Step 4:
I look at my life systematically, to see patterns in how I have been relating to people and situations.
Step 5:
I look at my behavior patterns with compassion, to understand the emotional logic behind them.
Step 6:
I see how my behavior patterns have been ways of coping with what feels overwhelming.
Step 7:
I learn to accept the sense of vulnerability that comes from facing what feels overwhelming.
Step 8:
I explore alternative behaviors and rehearse them in safe settings.
Step 9:
I apply these new mindful behaviors in my everyday life.
Step 10:
I keep paying attention to the causes and effects of my actions, and act accordingly
Step 11:
I keep facing reality mindfully, moment by moment, with a mindful pause.
Step 12:
My life reflects a growing sense of respect and compassion for myself and others.
Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude
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Atheist 12 Steps
- We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
- Came to believe and accept that we needed strengths beyond our awareness and resources to restore us to sanity.
- Made a decision to entrust our will and our lives to the care of the collective wisdom and resources of those who have searched before us.
- Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
- Admitted to ourselves, without reservation, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
- Were ready to accept help in letting go of all our defects of character.
- With humility and openness sought to eliminate our shortcomings.
- Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
- Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
- Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
- Sought through meditation to improve our spiritual awareness and our understanding of the AA way of life and to discover the power to carry out that way of life.
- Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
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12 Steps – Humanist Version
This version of secularized steps was created by the renowned behavioral psychologist B. F. Skinner and first published in “The Humanist”.
1. We accept the fact that all our efforts to stop drinking have failed.
2. We believe that we must turn elsewhere for help.
3. We turn to our fellow men and women, particularly those who have struggled with the same problem.
4. We have made a list of the situations in which we are most likely to drink.
5. We ask our friends to help us avoid those situations.
6. We are ready to accept the help they give us.
7. We honestly hope they will help.
8. We have made a list of the persons we have harmed and to whom we hope to make amends.
9. We shall do all we can to make amends, in any way that will not cause further harm.
10. We will continue to make such lists and revise them as needed.
11. We appreciate what our friends have done and are doing to help us.
12. We, in turn, are ready to help others who may come to us in the same way.
1. We accept the fact that all our efforts to stop drinking have failed.
2. We believe that we must turn elsewhere for help.
3. We turn to our fellow men and women, particularly those who have struggled with the same problem.
4. We have made a list of the situations in which we are most likely to drink.
5. We ask our friends to help us avoid those situations.
6. We are ready to accept the help they give us.
7. We honestly hope they will help.
8. We have made a list of the persons we have harmed and to whom we hope to make amends.
9. We shall do all we can to make amends, in any way that will not cause further harm.
10. We will continue to make such lists and revise them as needed.
11. We appreciate what our friends have done and are doing to help us.
12. We, in turn, are ready to help others who may come to us in the same way.
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Tao 12 Steps page.
https://12wisdomsteps.com/taoism/index.html
The Tao Itself
The Tao that can be toldis not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.
The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.
Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations.
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Hinduism and the 12 Steps
https://www.12wisdomsteps.com/hinduism/index.html
Hi Vik
You are always welcome here, but this is a forum for discussion of secular 12 step approaches ...although I concede Buddhism Taoism, Hinduism etc are not really secular approaches either, I guess they fit here than anywhere else right now.
We do have a general 12 step forum as well as a Spiritualism and a Christians in Recovery forum, if you're interested in those
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...-step-support/
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ians-recovery/
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/spirituality/
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You are always welcome here, but this is a forum for discussion of secular 12 step approaches ...although I concede Buddhism Taoism, Hinduism etc are not really secular approaches either, I guess they fit here than anywhere else right now.
We do have a general 12 step forum as well as a Spiritualism and a Christians in Recovery forum, if you're interested in those
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...-step-support/
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ians-recovery/
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/spirituality/
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Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude
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I would encourage you,Vic, to explore every avenue in addiction recovery. Be it religious or not, find what will work with you. I suggest you find supportive people in your life that will encourage you to grow beyond addiction. One kind of that support system is here at SR.
I've seen a few secular 12 steps along the way. When I started in AA, I felt kind of obligated to adopt something from the program, but I'm not a believer, so I just rewrote the steps by removing the higher power or any reference to anything supernatural from each step. This was before I ever heard of any secular variations. It just seemed like common sense to write them in a way that was relatable for me.
If you ignore Wilson's need to attribute sobriety or personal growth to something outside yourself, you can make a case that each step has some fundamental value that can improve your life, although sometimes it's a stretch, but the steps reduced to the nitty gritty are pretty basic, and I see the steps as mostly a primer for a beginner. Society is complicated with combinations of interpersonal relationships that are infinite and infinitely complex. You are not going to sort that all out with 12 steps, or even 42 steps, but it's a start, and many alcoholics may need a place to start if they have little to bring to the process of recovery on their own. But I believe many of us come to recovery with many useful life skills already in place.
Granted that when you start coming out of the alcoholic fog, you realize there's a lot of tweaking to do and new things to incorporate into your skill set. Alcoholics are addicted people. This does not make us shallow or dumb. Although, I have to admit a slobbering drunk doesn't appear to have many useful skills to work with, but when you sober one up, you will often be surprised.
If you ignore Wilson's need to attribute sobriety or personal growth to something outside yourself, you can make a case that each step has some fundamental value that can improve your life, although sometimes it's a stretch, but the steps reduced to the nitty gritty are pretty basic, and I see the steps as mostly a primer for a beginner. Society is complicated with combinations of interpersonal relationships that are infinite and infinitely complex. You are not going to sort that all out with 12 steps, or even 42 steps, but it's a start, and many alcoholics may need a place to start if they have little to bring to the process of recovery on their own. But I believe many of us come to recovery with many useful life skills already in place.
Granted that when you start coming out of the alcoholic fog, you realize there's a lot of tweaking to do and new things to incorporate into your skill set. Alcoholics are addicted people. This does not make us shallow or dumb. Although, I have to admit a slobbering drunk doesn't appear to have many useful skills to work with, but when you sober one up, you will often be surprised.
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Thank you so much for these! I believe in God....but I have issues with the AA 12 steps. They are to, I don't know how to describe it. I'm really happy for the people they work for, don't get me wrong. I know it is a great program for a lot of people. I just don't think it would be for me. Some of these look like they could be of help though.
Why do there have to be 12 Steps in a recovery program? A couple of times there are steps that seem like one step broken apart, as if they were broken apart to arrive at 12. There are also 12 traditions. I always assumed it was a Biblical device possibly in reference to the 12 Apostles, but the number 12 is also symbolically important to the Christian and Hebrew texts in many other ways. And what I did not know until looking it up is that 12 has religious significance well beyond Judaism and Christian religions. There may be 12 Steps for the same reason there were 12 Apostles, specifically because of the magical qualities attributed to 12 in religion and mythology.
As for secular 12 step programs, I assume they use that format to indicate secular value in the original 12 steps or maybe to ride on the coattails of AA. As newer approaches to recovery gain strength, I would expect the emphasis on the properties of 12 to be less significant.
As for secular 12 step programs, I assume they use that format to indicate secular value in the original 12 steps or maybe to ride on the coattails of AA. As newer approaches to recovery gain strength, I would expect the emphasis on the properties of 12 to be less significant.
Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_(number)
In Twelver Shi'a Islam, there are twelve Imams, legitimate successors of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad. These twelve early leaders of Islam are—Ali, Hasan, Husayn, and nine of Husayn's descendants. Sura 12 in the Quran is sura Yusuf, narrating the story of the sons of Jacob.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_(number)
Religion
The number twelve carries religious, mythological and magical symbolism, generally representing perfection, entirety, or cosmic order in traditions since antiquity.[13]Ancient Greek religion
- The Twelve Olympians are the principal gods of the pantheon, they were preceded by twelve Titans, and Hercules carries out twelve labours.[14]
- Several sets of twelve cities are identified in history as a dodecapolis, the most familiar being the Etruscan League. In ancient Rome, the twelve lictors carried fasces of twelve rods.
Judaism and Christianity
- The significance is especially pronounced in the Hebrew Bible.
- The "Twelve Days of Christmas" count the interval between Christmas and Epiphany.
- Eastern Orthodoxy observes twelve Great Feasts.
Hinduism
- There are twelve Jyotirlinga(Self-formed Lingas) of Lord Shiva in Hindu temples across India according to the Shaiva tradition.
- The Sun god Surya has 12 names.
- The Monkey god Hanuman has 12 names.
- There are 12 Petals in Anahata or "heart chakra".
- There are frequently said to be 12 Âdityas.
Others
In the King Arthur Legend, Arthur is said to subdue 12 rebel princes and to win 12 great battles against Saxon invaders.[16]In Twelver Shi'a Islam, there are twelve Imams, legitimate successors of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad. These twelve early leaders of Islam are—Ali, Hasan, Husayn, and nine of Husayn's descendants. Sura 12 in the Quran is sura Yusuf, narrating the story of the sons of Jacob.
Thank you so much for these! I believe in God....but I have issues with the AA 12 steps. They are to, I don't know how to describe it. I'm really happy for the people they work for, don't get me wrong. I know it is a great program for a lot of people. I just don't think it would be for me. Some of these look like they could be of help though.
And it is indeed our responsibility. We must think it through, educate ourselves on addiction, rise to the challenge of quitting during of those first few days of obsessive cravings, and then finally become aware of those teasing attempts from our AV to encourage us to have just one little "harmless drink."
If someone wants to invite a higher power to help, I have no problem with that, but we must never forget that we are the ones doing the actual work. There is a phrase ringing in my head right now: "God helps those who help themselves," and I think this perception could not apply more than it does in breaking our addiction to alcohol.
There are other programs out there, and I think all have value. We can glean from them those parts which are most helpful, and tweak them to make them applicable to our needs, just as I gleaned what I could from AA. From that, we can come to an understanding of our addiction and find our personal solutions to solve it, and we can make good on our personal responsibility to ourselves.
I don't know how many steps there are in my personal program. My recovery is too fluid to have a number. Often when a problem arises, I invent a "step" to deal with it or tweak something I used before, and then that step recedes into the background of my mind. I think the big unalterable ones in breaking my cycle of addiction are 1.accepting that I can never drink again, 2. making a commitment to never drink again, 3. recognizing my alcoholic voice when it tries to influence me, and 4. rejecting it when I recognize it.
I have other steps that involve my personal growth, but I see those as mostly separate from my addiction issue with alcohol. I realize they are vital to my well being, but different from my drinking. But sobriety makes it clearer to me how I need to approach those problems. So yes, the two things are connected if you want to look at it that way.
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Originally Posted by Dry
Recovery is a very personal thing, and some may feel it as a point of personal responsibility to fix it.
Originally Posted by Dry
AA who offered me help and support when I needed it. The steps, with or without a higher power in them, offer a primer on self improvement, but were not my focus. I wanted to break the cycle of addiction, and I felt a personal responsibility to do that.
AA works for some. For me, AA became irrelevant along with HP and such. Leaving AA was the most healthy thing I could do at the time.
😉 Different strokes for different folks that's all.
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