Buddhism and the 12 steps

Old 12-17-2017, 02:45 PM
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Buddhism and the 12 steps

“Consider the eight-part program laid down in Buddhism: Right view, right aim, right speech, right action, right living, right effort, right mindedness and right contemplation. The Buddhist philosophy, as exemplified by these eight points, could be literally adopted by AA as a substitute for or addition to the Twelve Steps. Generosity, universal love and welfare of others rather than considerations of self are basic to Buddhism.”

The above quote is from a very early AA pamphlet that appears to have been written (or at least edited) by Dr. Bob, one of AA's co-founders.

I'm impressed with both the knowledge and the open mindedness of those early AA individuals.

For anyone interested, the whole pamphlet can be found here. “Spiritual Milestones in Alcoholics Anonymous”

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Old 12-21-2017, 07:18 AM
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Kevin Griffin ( wrote a book adapting the 12 Steps to Buddhism. Anyone curious about the overlap between Buddhism and AA will find it and maybe his website of interest. If I remember correctly, his "higher power" was simply trust in Buddhist practice. That works for me. Four years practicing Buddhism while maintaining sobriety has done me plenty good.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:30 PM
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Griffen actually wrote several books on the 12 Steps from a Buddhist perspective. My rehab was 12 Step based, but i read two of his books. I related so much more to these than the Big Book, which i find dated and way to based on Christian faith while claiming not to be. I struggled to get through the first 169 pages.
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Old 01-01-2018, 04:03 PM
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Isn’t Refuge Recovery based on Buddhist principles?
Is Kevin Griffin associated with RR?
Sorry, I don’t know much about the program.
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Old 01-01-2018, 04:45 PM
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Refuge Recovery is Buddhist, but not directly associated with Kevin Griffin. Noah Levine started Refuge Recovery. He personally started with AA, and his book entitled Refuge Recovery offers a kind of adaptation of the 12 Steps, much like Griffin's book that revises the 12 Steps to adhere to Buddhist principles.
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Thanks, Zero.
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Old 04-15-2018, 04:18 PM
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Great book tip - thanks. Have just downloaded to my Kindle. Keep the recommendations coming!
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Old 04-15-2018, 04:43 PM
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The 12-Step Buddhist by Darren Littlejohn
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:19 PM
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There is AA and there is buddism. Sometimes they appear to align, sometimes they appear not to.

I practice buddism. AA can fit within it.
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