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Old 10-06-2019, 10:12 AM
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Ginger baker

RIP Ginger Baker legendary drummer best known here I guess for the supergroup Cream with Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton. I post about him here because he was a heroin addict for a long time, I believe (though i'm not certain) the last time he quit was his 30th attempt. He was 80 years old.

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One of my favorites from Cream.

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Earlier on I watched an interview on the BBC with a guy doing a tribute to Ginger Baker.

He was saying what a great musician he was. He went on to say how very difficult Mr Baker was to work with. How he was horrible and a complete nightmare.

Love it. He was an addict, erm yes we are difficult to work with and are often horrible and complete nightmares.

I have never heard such a truthful obit. Usually the behaviours are all smoothed over and pretence of what a wonderful person the addict was.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PeacefulWater12 View Post
He was saying what a great musician he was. He went on to say how very difficult Mr Baker was to work with. How he was horrible and a complete nightmare.
I believe GB broke the nose of a person making a BBC documentary about him.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:39 PM
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I have heard many stories about what a mean sob he was to be around too. I always wonder how much of that was attributable to addiction and how much was just natural. In his case, I think both. He was definitely one of rock's superstar drummers of that era, along with Moon and Bonham.

He was obviously known for his work with Cream, but check out some Ginger Baker's Air Force if you get the chance.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by stargazer016 View Post

He was obviously known for his work with Cream, but check out some Ginger Baker's Air Force if you get the chance.
He also played with Fela Kuti's Afro '70 for quite some time. Ultra innovative.
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I was talking to my brother in law last night ( he's a drummer) and he recommended I listen to Masters of Reality "Sunrise on the Sufferbus." Listening now, it's a pretty amazing album.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:20 AM
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I guess his passion kept him going. But without that success and fame I doubt he would've made it to rehab 10 times let alone 30. Think about all those who don't have access to those resources.

I should add he is probably from one of the last generation of actual musicians/talent who mastered their craft. Sadly a dying breed.
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Live version with Ginger on drums of Blind Faith's Still Can't Find My Way Home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJJnA6zEcGk
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How long had he been sober when he died?

A long time, I hope.
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According to Wikipedia he stopped in 1981.
This thread has really heartened me, it means never give up giving up.

​​​​​i remember listening to Cream on my parents record player in stereo with headphones. I loved the way you got some of the music coming in one ear and a different set in the other, I think White Room was best for that.
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Rolling Stone Magazine has a 2009 article on Baker titled 'The Devil And Ginger Baker'. It's an unflinching look at the Man, and his habits...
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