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Old 08-12-2017, 06:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1 in 8 adults are alcoholics, study says


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rainbow&wpmm=1
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Ive often wondered about this, does it mean if I were with 16 people there is me and 1 other alcoholic, sorry if that sounds thick but I just wondered
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I think it just means that 12.5% of american adults are alcoholic.
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Oh right ok thanks
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This could be misleading. The DSM V changed the way substance use disorders are diagnosed in many countries, including the U.S.. The criteria have changed, and the new definition of alcohol use disorder only requires a person meet two of the eleven criteria to qualify. In addition, it's kind of misleading for the Washington Post to use the term "alcoholic" as a synonym for alcohol use disorder. The concepts and definitions do not necessarily equate. Many people meet criteria for alcohol use disorder, mild, who would not have been considered alcoholic under the old criteria.
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I think it's too easy to consider someone including their self an 'alcoholic' because it takes away the personal responsibility and deflects from those who are suffering with more extreme issues and need alot more help sobering up.

That being said there is probably better statistic keeping than decades ago. Including the fact the treatment is covered under more health insurance plans meaning there is a larger pool of data.
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This could be misleading. The DSM V changed the way substance use disorders are diagnosed in many countries, including the U.S.. The criteria have changed, and the new definition of alcohol use disorder only requires a person meet two of the eleven criteria to qualify. In addition, it's kind of misleading for the Washington Post to use the term "alcoholic" as a synonym for alcohol use disorder. The concepts and definitions do not necessarily equate. Many people meet criteria for alcohol use disorder, mild, who would not have been considered alcoholic under the old criteria.
Pretty much this. The new criteria is pretty vague, and someone who drinks more than 4 drinks in a sitting, or perhaps gets semi-drunk once a month could fit into the category, whom are not alcoholics or alcohol dependent.
From at least what i've read, those that are everyday, to near everyday, "classic" alcoholics is much lower, in the 3% or so range
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Manual based statistics versus individual pain...

The manuals which describe and produce diagnoses and define the statistical relevance of societal ills are often in sync with political agendas and medicalised national sway. The spotlight can either highlight individual responsibility or social norms. At the heart of the matter is the personal chaos that arises when drinking becomes an uncontrollable force. What and how much one drinks is irrelevant, if life chances are lost, and pain is deemed an acceptable alternative to living life for pleasure rather than working for what makes for a happy life, everyday....
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Great points, Tree.

It's hard to quantify the pain we alcoholics, and others who are simply very heavy drinkers, endure during the course of pursuing our addictions.

Glad you're here, amigo.
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