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Old 01-02-2020, 08:01 PM
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(Not that anyone asked my advice)
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Old 01-03-2020, 01:36 AM
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I agree SoHard, and I'm glad you understood the point I was trying to make to GT. I too originally stumbled upon Secular Connections, I thought it was simply a cyber meeting place for secular minded members.

I also agree with the points raised by fini.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:41 AM
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I thought it was simply a cyber meeting place for secular minded members..
this is exactly what I thought.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:42 AM
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I definitely feel that semantics are crucial (if subtle) with all this recovery stuff. Even the word 'recovery' is not universally liked. I studied English language at uni; it would have been interesting to have done a study on it.

I mean how many people out there are drinking themselves to death because they don't associate themselves with that one highly contentious word: alcoholic? It's not necessarily denial, more the general perception of the meaning of just one word in the English language.
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tetrax View Post
I definitely feel that semantics are crucial (if subtle) with all this recovery stuff. Even the word 'recovery' is not universally liked. I studied English language at uni; it would have been interesting to have done a study on it.

I mean how many people out there are drinking themselves to death because they don't associate themselves with that one highly contentious word: alcoholic? It's not necessarily denial, more the general perception of the meaning of just one word in the English language.
oh yes, I certainly agree with you here! Very good point. In fact, I donít think of myself as an alcoholic or in recovery. I think of myself as an addict therefore I canít drink and itís also over now (no more struggle/not recovering from anything). So, I will amend some of my above terminology. I think the main threads should be called Alcohol Use Disorder Information (not recovery). Underneath it, there can be an Alcoholism forum, 12 step forums, and Independent Methods (not recovery).
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:38 AM
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I donít think of myself as an alcoholic or in recovery. I think of myself as an addict therefore I canít drink and itís also over now (no more struggle/not recovering from anything).
Fair enough, I quite like that.

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So, I will amend some of my above terminology. I think the main threads should be called Alcohol Use Disorder Information (not recovery). Underneath it, there can be an Alcoholism forum, 12 step forums, and Independent Methods (not recovery).
I get where you're coming from but I do see a problem in differentiating those with AUD and those with alcoholism, plus the fact that AUD - as far as I know - is only an official term in America.
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Old 01-03-2020, 03:56 PM
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Fair enough, I quite like that.



I get where you're coming from but I do see a problem in differentiating those with AUD and those with alcoholism, plus the fact that AUD - as far as I know - is only an official term in America.

Good point about the AUD being American.

How about the title of the forum being For People Addicted to Alcohol.

Underneath that, all the options (AA and secular (renamed), so that weíre no longer in no manís land).
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:01 PM
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MorningGlory put a lot of time and thought into the titles for these forums. They're not going to be changed, guys.

Move on

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MorningGlory put a lot of time and thought into the titles for these forums. They're not going to be changed, guys.

Move on

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Oh I know. I was just thinking. I have corresponded with quite a few folks who didnít find AVRT for a while because itís not under the Alcoholism Forum. Itís just a shame. Iím assuming Morning Glory would be bummed to know that. I just think itís important for everyone one (and every website) to be learning and growing. But Iíll drop it.
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Yes, I'll move on too.
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:41 AM
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In a couple of days, I will have reached the *sober for 3 years* mark, using AVRT.
It worked spectacularly for me!

Recently, I was looking on the Rational Recovery site for info about it
(to print out for someone I know who is struggling with alcoholism)
and a lot of the info is no longer there. Does anyone know why?
I am glad that some of it is also here.

BTW, I think that Alan Carr's " The Easy Way To Stop Drinking"
(which is no longer in print)
works in a similar way.
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Hi Daucuscarota,

Itís nice to hear from you and that youíre giving out information on planned permanent abstinence.

I think the RR website has been consistent for the last several years. It has a button in the left column called ďsite mapĒ. That page has links to 26 different pages on the site plus a list of 27 more pages that are available to people who subscribe.

I recommend learning the Rational Recovery Dictionary page to give people wanting to establish a meaningful foundation for the R (Recognition) in AVRT (Addictive Voice Recognition Technique).

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Old 02-04-2020, 06:42 AM
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OK thanks so much for the info
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TY for the update on your success, Dau.

I reviewed the RR Slides on-line after up and quitting >6 Years ago, and there was no turning back. Coming across SR after a search made that possible.

At RV Camping spots like the one we're at now in the Desert, I encounter a wide variety of Folks who also up and quit on a self-motivated basis. Does my Heart good!
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Old 02-04-2020, 03:28 PM
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congrats on 3 years Dau

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