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Old 12-29-2015, 08:10 PM   #141 (permalink)
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ALinNS, hope you are weathering the weather today OK, my sister just left by air for Halifax, it's looking a little iffy.

I found the most effective way to battle my urges, to fight the AV, was not to fight it at all. I find that giving it my full attention with as little emotional involvment as possible to be very effective. Mindfulness or awareness, they mean the same thing to me. By doing this, staring it, I can see it for what it is. It isn't anything more than the leftover of a previous physical and psychological dependency. It isn't real in the sense that it has no real power to influence my actions. My rational mind has the ultimate control simply because I say so. I have decided I deserve to be sober and that I am going to stay sober, and that is the end of it. Those days of misery and shame and guilt and depression and anger are all in the past for me.

I recovered, and you can be recovered too, Andrew. You got this one. Onward!
I agree but I need help in some areas, victim of a pedophile at the age of 13, witnessed a you couple who just became married killed in front of me in a car crash by a drunk driver (I was working at a gas station on the highway and had just filled their car) followed home from a bank I worked at and stabbed in the back.....when my mind becomes weak from being tired and working too many hours, I start having flashbacks in my dreams and sometimes in the day. I need to learn to forgive myself as I was not responsible yet this voice comes and I make the wrong decision, but I will get the help I need and then I can have a happy life because when I am strong such as now they have no impact, just a distant memory. The AV knows when I am weak and it gets pretty bad. Anyhow I know what needs to be done and I will do it and am making great strides.
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Old 06-15-2017, 02:03 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Great reading here. Thanks Fresh start.

day 4. Looking for the AVRT thread now. Hope you're doing well AL in NS.
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Old 06-15-2017, 02:40 PM   #143 (permalink)
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ALinNS, hope you are weathering the weather today OK, my sister just left by air for Halifax, it's looking a little iffy.

I found the most effective way to battle my urges, to fight the AV, was not to fight it at all. I find that giving it my full attention with as little emotional involvment as possible to be very effective. Mindfulness or awareness, they mean the same thing to me. By doing this, staring it, I can see it for what it is. It isn't anything more than the leftover of a previous physical and psychological dependency. It isn't real in the sense that it has no real power to influence my actions. My rational mind has the ultimate control simply because I say so. I have decided I deserve to be sober and that I am going to stay sober, and that is the end of it. Those days of misery and shame and guilt and depression and anger are all in the past for me.

I recovered, and you can be recovered too, Andrew. You got this one. Onward!
Thanks Freshstart for your words. i am encouraged too. Day 4 and I have just began the antabuse med to help me blast off. It hopefully will take drinking option off the table until i'm mentally, emotionally stronger and more stable. Loving the avrt stuff. Thank you.

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Old 06-18-2017, 10:36 AM   #144 (permalink)
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You have everything you need to succeed, BillyBlanks,, complete and fully formed inside you. Believe in your ability to do this, for you most certainly can. Consider every doubt and fear to be the death throes of your drinking habit, and every urge to take that drink to be coming from IT, not from you. And how can you know this to be so?

This is so because you have made this solemn, unconditional, and considered covenenant with life: you will never drink again, no matter what. And you will never change your mind.

Best to you. And ONWARD!
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:51 AM   #145 (permalink)
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This thread is like a breath of fresh air for me! I never understood the value of saying to myself that I was helpless in the face of my problem drinking and needed To submit to Gods will. I am in full power of my choices. Thank you so much for this post!!
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I've never understood faith healing either, I also believe that only I have the power to decide to quit drinking/drugging. I'm not sure what I believe regarding God or religion but I have a problem with a God who would ignore all the atrocities and injustices in the world yet single me out to cure of wanting to get drunk. Do I believe that I have an Addictive Voice that will always want to get drunk one more time for old times sake? Yes I do. Do I believe that I can ignore that voice and decide to never pour alcohol down my throat again? You betcha.
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I've never understood faith healing either, I also believe that only I have the power to decide to quit drinking/drugging. I'm not sure what I believe regarding God or religion but I have a problem with a God who would ignore all the atrocities and injustices in the world yet single me out to cure of wanting to get drunk. Do I believe that I have an Addictive Voice that will always want to get drunk one more time for old times sake? Yes I do. Do I believe that I can ignore that voice and decide to never pour alcohol down my throat again? You betcha.
I've never understood giving over my power to God. Why would I do that?
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This forum is for the discussion of secular recovery not for critiques on non secular methods.

Lets keep to the topic of AVRT guys

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Old 07-26-2017, 04:40 PM   #149 (permalink)
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Hi, secular peeps!

These forums were super helpful to me once upon a time; I see some old friends here, awesome!

I was having a slow day at work, and for some reason it occurred to me to pop in here. That's when I saw it's been over a year since I even logged into the site.

I haven't drank in all that time... Or spent much time thinking about it, if any at all... The only reason I know how many years it's been is because I quit in 2010, making the counting super easy for me, lol.... Hmmmm....

This AVRT stuff must really work, huh?

Best wishes to one and all!!!
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AVRT Threads

I posted this in another thread, but since this thread is a sticky, I am re-posting here for easier access in the future.

See:
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  2. Forum threads tagged with AVRT

  3. Forum threads tagged with Rational Recovery
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Hi there, love this post. I have been doing the same in NA and ten years later Im still relapsing. I am on my last chance now to save myself, and keep my family so Im going to follow the AVRT with my addiction to Cocaine and get clean. 👍🏼
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Hi Mr Denial, quitting coke is hard, no question about it. But I have a feeling you have done harder stuff before. You don't need to lie awake at 4 in the morning with your nose burning running and your heart still pounding, that feeling of dread creeping over to say good morning. You don't need anything that coke has for you. It's time to break up with the White Lady, that lying, stealing, soul- crushing pile of misery.

The time will come, you know it will, when you will quit. Consider this from all angles now, take charge of this and pick a good time to quit. I have a feeling tho that there will be no time better than now, right now, as you are reading this. You CAN choose, you can treat this like you would facing down the threat that this truly is. You CAN exercise the ultimate control over this by making a plan to never use coke again. Ever. No matter how good you feel, how sad you feel, good news, bad news, it doesn't matter, you can make the choice NOW once and for all, and never have to deal with this crap again.

You deserve a life without this agony, don't you think? You deserve to have a bank account, you deserve to have self-respect, you deserve to have a family, you deserve to have a life with beauty and joy and peace in it it. And now is the best time of all to demand this life of yourself. And, if you think about it as I do, it will be 'now' whenever you finally quit, so how about right now?

Are you ready Mr Denial? Are you ready to make your plan about continuing to use?

I believe in you, I know you have this in you, everything you need is already there. It's time to perform that death defying act and make that Big Plan. Onward!
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This thread is really helpful to me. After 24 years of taking drugs, I just upped and quit one day. I never could really explain it. In the beginning, I still had urges but made a deal with myself that I wasn't going to get in the ring with them. I simply wasn't going to use ever again. Without realising it or having a name for it these are exactly the principles I applied. Thank you.
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Thank you for the forthright Post above. It's a compelling message for so many.

I hang out in what I call 'The SoberSphere'. Among the Recovered. At RV Parks. Dog Parks. Select Social settings. From that larger Demographic, I have a firm sense of there being so many, like you, who up and made their own Life-changing decisions re: no further use of Alcohol/Drugs. There's a bunch of us!

Thank you for the positive message.
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