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Old 10-03-2005, 02:54 AM
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35 days sober "nark free" tramadol isn"t a nark. is it ??
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Don't know about Tramadol, but glad you are still here! Hang in there!

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Old 10-03-2005, 04:24 AM
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I think tramadol is an opiate, and also classified as a narcotic analgesic.
One of the milder pain meds, I guess.
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I think that anything wether it is legal or NOT has to be avoided at all cost in recovery if it can be. I know sometimes we might think that we need something but I know sometimes that we try and justify it. NA= Nothing ATall and AA= Absolute Abstenense

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Glad you are here. No matter what you are taking, this is the place to be to help find some answers...
Good luck to you. Keep posting and reading.
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:27 AM
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Ragidiman,

Glad to have you here!

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Old 10-03-2005, 06:40 AM
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Can I ask why you are taking Tramadol? I havea friend who has been prescribed this for pain associated with a debilitating condition and i am curious as to the drug. Feel free to send me a private message.
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Hi ragidiman....

glad you're still here!

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Old 10-03-2005, 09:17 AM
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Who said I waz takin tramadol anyway

Me now!!
Ive had been taking hydros lots and lots ovem
If I told U how much Ud think I waz lyen anyway I havent had any
now for 35 days but have to have something for my back problem
by tha way thats how I got addicted my back. only had one surgery
so far but now I have 1 moderate and 1 large herniated disk down
low and one moderate one up high along w/ degenerative disk desease



This is why I now take tramadol instead of $200 worth of hydros a _______


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Originally Posted by ragidiman
have to have something for my back problem
by tha way thats how I got addicted my back.


You know what I have two crushed disks in my back and yes it is painful and yes I COULD go get as many pain pills as I would want but I don't cause I can live with the pain, it hurts so bad some days but this too will pass and besides I am an addict I know that today, and my life is worth more than any pain that I have today.

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good for you! Hang in there. My husband got addicted the same way-back pain. doctors need better education. after all he's been through my husband could go back to his doctor today and walk out with a presciption for more hydrocodone! marilyn
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:46 PM
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what is diff between addiction and dependence

I am still dependant on meds in order to get
outa bed, walk, sit, ect.......
I think as long as U take meds as perscribed
you wont become addicted??


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Originally Posted by ragidiman
I am still dependant on meds in order to get
outa bed, walk, sit, ect.......
I think as long as U take meds as perscribed
you wont become addicted??


opinions requested

thanks for listening

I'm no expert but my husband became addicted taking hydrocodone as prescibed. as his "tolerance" grew the need for more grew. His dr switched him to oxycontin which gave him some side effects so he just flushed them thinking he would go the next day to get hydrocodone again. His dr was out of town and my husband went into withdrawal like you wouldn't believe. He got into a different dr and she explained the whole thing to him thats when we found out you can get addicted to opiate based pain killers even taking them as prescibed especially if your dr isn't educated to be careful. anyway he decided he didn't want to be addicted to anything. but it's been an unbelievable process to get free of them. also he has learned that back pain although very much still there isn't as bad as the addiction. ONe way of putting it is that your body can fool you into believing the pain is worse than it is to get you to keep taking the pain killers. for what it's worth. marilyn
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we do belive that opiate based pain killers aren't all bad they have a purpose. we just learned that hard way that we all need to be educated about what we take and not assume our dr is always right. we don't know whether my husbands use of alcohol played a part in "helping" him get addicted to the pain killers. He had quit drinking about 8 mos before he found he was addicted to pain killers. then it took 3 times of weaning himself down to just a few pain killers a day then going back up over 6 months to get free of them. also keep in mind that some people get addicted to substances easier than others. My husband come from a long line of alcoholics so was probably more at risk than some. It's been 2 years of no alcohol and 14 months of no pain killers. we are very proud of that. but he is on prozac and depakote to deal with the problems he's developed since quiting. He worries that he's done permanent damage to his brain. marilyn
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tolerance levels

I know how when U take more Hydros then it takes more to get same
result as month before and so on and so forth
what I need to know is does the actual pain relief lesson like the euphoria
does, I realy never gave much attention to that part, all I wanted waz
the euphoria affect and the pain always stayed tolorable, and now after
36 days off Hydros I waz expecting pain to be tolorable but it is more
intense now and hasn't gotten better. The tramadol has helped that
but not as good as Hydros did.


any way thanks for listening

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My husband says he never got the euphoria--just a mild "high". after he quit using them he has felt really lousy every since and has to fight the knowledge that taking them again would make him feel good again. ---- I have a friend who takes them and has for many years and says she never intends to quit. but my husband says toward the end he knew it was doing something to his brain also hated the idea of being addicted. Now he has to deal with the pain but is more careful about what he does since he doesn't have the drugs.
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Oh sorry I can't answer your question. sounds like your situation is different. did you have surgery?
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Old 10-04-2005, 05:13 AM
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surgery

Originally Posted by maricamp
Oh sorry I can't answer your question. sounds like your situation is different. did you have surgery?


I had surgery in 1996 and waz proud to get it
surgen said it was the second worst ruptured disk he
had ever seen but he,d only beed practising about 12 yrs
I finaly decided to see a dr when I lost muscle control
in left leg thats when he told me I needed surgery ASAP
and I was all for it
After surgery I was back at work in one week, I believe
now that this was a mistake because 3 yrs later problem
started back
been on meds ever sinse
DRs say its not bad enought "viea MRI" fgor surgery yet
some people can go 15 yrs with herniated disk before they
rupture and need surgery.


Oh yes in 1996 I had a lot higher tolerance to pain
then I do now.
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You might consider seeing a different dr. after my husband injured his back they didn't do an IMR until 6 mos later. IN the meantime he did physical therapy. which helped with the pain eventually he agreed to surgery because of loss of use and feeling in his leg. the surgery was no help. Later a different dr said that there is a "window of opportunity" for surgery and then the results lesson with time. My husbands injury and surgery was also in 1996. He has had about 4 mri's since just seeing if his back is accually getting worse or what. but it's nothing surgery would help. right now his biggest complaint is what the meds have done to his head. He's getting used to living with pain it's the lesser of the two evils.

and I think I mentioned: keep in mind that if addiction is a factor your body will betray you. It will make you believe your pain is bad and you need more.
when my husband was told that he said "no my pain is real". Now he looks back and says "they pain is real. but not as bad as my addiction was saying that it was". I'm not saying that's the case with you but keep it in mind.

(several keys on my key board have quit working makes it look like I have terrible or lazy grammar! that's what happens when everyone eats and drinks at the computer!)

Hang in there I don't know much about what you are taking. Keep looking for info and answers. also I would recommend going to a pain center.
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Ok I went and looked up some info on tramadol. one place said it's an opiate/narcotic. another said it's not an opiate. so? but all sites said it is habit forming. so it sounds like caution with this drug is in order. esp if a person already has addiction issues.

again keep looking for info and answers.
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