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Thanks for the positive feedback, much appreciated. So I made a mistake. I’m actually on day 4 as my last drink was Monday afternoon. That being said stomach is still upset and headache. How long were you guys out of commission before you finally felt better? I felt good enough for a brief jog this morning but now I’m in bed.
Again thanks.
Again thanks.
Watch for things bad for your liver too. Sugar, processed meats, medications, anything with toxins in it. Your liver has to process that. Once you stop drinking try to cut those things out when possible. Low fat healthy diet.
Milk thistle, vitamin E, brewed coffee, turmeric and some other things are good for fatty liver. Exercise too.
This will help you feel better faster.
Milk thistle, vitamin E, brewed coffee, turmeric and some other things are good for fatty liver. Exercise too.
This will help you feel better faster.
Following from what Khorhey said, here is a SR article regarding nutrition and the liver:
https://www.soberrecovery.com/recove...mp-your-liver/
https://www.soberrecovery.com/recove...mp-your-liver/
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Well done for staying sober. The ALT and AST are not high as i had similar tests when i was a couple of years into sobriety, and remember what i was told. A muscle injury can increase liver readings along with a lot of other things not associated with alcohol abuse. Being overweight puts a lot of pressure on the Liver so losing weight can make a huge difference as it did with me.
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No liver pain stories, but just want to check in to say that I hope you'll keep an open mind about: (1) you might be an alcoholic; (2) you might be the type of alcoholic who can only stay sober by fully committing to the recovery program of Alcoholics Anonymous. I'm one of those alcoholics. Feel free to PM me if you want to chat more about that.
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Update
Hey all, so I'm going to make it to day 8 in an hour or so. Do I feel better? Yes (about 80%). Is my head clearer, Yes (95%). I was having pains in my side pretty consistently but they have pretty much subsided with a little tinge here and there. I still have some pins and needles in my foot but they are subsiding also and only feel it when I run. A few questions for the longer haulers out there.
1) Weight - So I've dropped some weight over the last 8 days (probably 3 or 4 pounds). I'm assuming thats water weight? I know there are a lot of calories in booze so just wanted feedback.
2) I'm stuck in what you might call a "rut". What I mean is I'm doing the same thing each day and trying to not to veer too much. Get up, get the kids ready for camp(s), eat, work, get the kids from camp and come home and eat dinner, watch TV starting around 6 and go to bed at 8:30. I've literally done the same thing except for golf one day for the last 8 days. Do you slowly climb out of the rut by doing a little more each day or just break the chain and change everything.?
I'm not on.a tightrope right now and I feel as long as I stay in this "rut" that I'll stay sober. I'm thinking if I start to do other things that are off the beaten path that my car will slowly but surely stop at the liquor store when I'm out and about.
Thanks, any feedback is welcome.
1) Weight - So I've dropped some weight over the last 8 days (probably 3 or 4 pounds). I'm assuming thats water weight? I know there are a lot of calories in booze so just wanted feedback.
2) I'm stuck in what you might call a "rut". What I mean is I'm doing the same thing each day and trying to not to veer too much. Get up, get the kids ready for camp(s), eat, work, get the kids from camp and come home and eat dinner, watch TV starting around 6 and go to bed at 8:30. I've literally done the same thing except for golf one day for the last 8 days. Do you slowly climb out of the rut by doing a little more each day or just break the chain and change everything.?
I'm not on.a tightrope right now and I feel as long as I stay in this "rut" that I'll stay sober. I'm thinking if I start to do other things that are off the beaten path that my car will slowly but surely stop at the liquor store when I'm out and about.
Thanks, any feedback is welcome.
I remember an old timer describing a conversation with a new guy. New guy asks, "What do I need to change?" Old timer replies authoritatively, "Everything!" I disagreed back then, and I still do. Not all alcoholics come to recovery so severely damaged. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Some of us do have life skills, and even some very good ones.
However, as I recall my own recovery, there were some major changes at the beginning that were absolutely essential (for me). And that was followed with a slow climb out of my affliction, with some major changes needed occasionally throughout that slow climb. So the correct answer is "Yes, both of those."
Are you worrying too much about getting it right, or should you just go ahead and make some changes intuitively based on your own best reasoning? Again, the answer is, "Yes!"
I found in the first 30 days it was best to make no waves. Just take care of myself - diet, some exercise, let the sleep improve. Most important thing is to stay sober and avoid temptations or undue stress (for the first 90 days). Spent a lot of time just reading and relaxing, doing routine chores. We are not even thinking clearly in early recovery so avoid big decisions and shaking things up too much.
After 6 months I was able to travel internationally again without wanting to drink.
After 6 months I was able to travel internationally again without wanting to drink.
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Hey all, figured I'd give a quick update on things. So been going along pretty well. 99% better than I was when I first posted. I'm starting to have days where I'm truly motivated to do things and not just half ass, like do things to the fullest. I read a good post on facebook that helped me also which talked about doing one thing at a time and 100% completely that before you move on versus trying to do 3 or 4 things at once and doing 75% of that. It really helps me focus but I have to admit sometimes too much time goes by but at least I feel liek I've accomplished something when I'm done. When I was drinking, I would literally do things half way and then just lost interest and started to drink. I'm not exaggerating when I say this either but it could have been something as easy as getting dressed. I would throw on a golf shirt and instead of putting on golf shorts I would put on gym shorts and just say screw it, I've done enough.
I will say this. At the very least, when I was drinking I rarely if ever did things 100%, not even 80%. Now at least I'm finishing things which is fulfilling. On my 2nd to last day of drinking I went to the grocery store as I was making some stew that had about 10 things in the recipe. So I got home and realized I was missing two of the spices I needed so I just made it without those and it tasted horrid. So I wasted about $30 in ingredients for this and instead of driving 2 miles back to the store, just said screw it.
Thanks for listening.
I will say this. At the very least, when I was drinking I rarely if ever did things 100%, not even 80%. Now at least I'm finishing things which is fulfilling. On my 2nd to last day of drinking I went to the grocery store as I was making some stew that had about 10 things in the recipe. So I got home and realized I was missing two of the spices I needed so I just made it without those and it tasted horrid. So I wasted about $30 in ingredients for this and instead of driving 2 miles back to the store, just said screw it.
Thanks for listening.
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Hey all, figured I'd give a quick update on things. So been going along pretty well. 99% better than I was when I first posted. I'm starting to have days where I'm truly motivated to do things and not just half ass, like do things to the fullest. I read a good post on facebook that helped me also which talked about doing one thing at a time and 100% completely that before you move on versus trying to do 3 or 4 things at once and doing 75% of that. It really helps me focus but I have to admit sometimes too much time goes by but at least I feel liek I've accomplished something when I'm done. When I was drinking, I would literally do things half way and then just lost interest and started to drink. I'm not exaggerating when I say this either but it could have been something as easy as getting dressed. I would throw on a golf shirt and instead of putting on golf shorts I would put on gym shorts and just say screw it, I've done enough.
I will say this. At the very least, when I was drinking I rarely if ever did things 100%, not even 80%. Now at least I'm finishing things which is fulfilling. On my 2nd to last day of drinking I went to the grocery store as I was making some stew that had about 10 things in the recipe. So I got home and realized I was missing two of the spices I needed so I just made it without those and it tasted horrid. So I wasted about $30 in ingredients for this and instead of driving 2 miles back to the store, just said screw it.
Thanks for listening.
I will say this. At the very least, when I was drinking I rarely if ever did things 100%, not even 80%. Now at least I'm finishing things which is fulfilling. On my 2nd to last day of drinking I went to the grocery store as I was making some stew that had about 10 things in the recipe. So I got home and realized I was missing two of the spices I needed so I just made it without those and it tasted horrid. So I wasted about $30 in ingredients for this and instead of driving 2 miles back to the store, just said screw it.
Thanks for listening.
I literally wouldn't be able to do my job for a week if I were to go on a drinking binge.
Alcohol fries my brain connections.
On top of it, I'd be too sick to even make it to work in the first place.
I don't miss it one bit.
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Update (not the best but not the worst)
So I had some good time in for me which was about 3+ weeks. For some reason (even thought I had a plan) I weakened last week and went on a 4 day bender which didn't end that well. Last week at this time I was throwing up on the golf course and had to face clients at a golf outing for the day which was miserable. Woke up Tuesday with many aches and pains in the right flank and overall felt like death even though I didn't even drink on Monday (must have been dehydration and alcohol poison). Felt like sh*t all last week with stomach issues, bathroom issues and mental health issues to name a few.
So here's a few things I've learned this week.
As you get older (I'm 53) it takes longer to "recover" from drinking. I'm literally just starting to feel normal after 7 days of abstinence but am still having a few odds and ends with pains, etc.
I will say that I still think of drinking each day but as the days go on, less and less. I find that doing the same thing each day helps me focus on sobriety. Whether it's watching TV at a certain time or just getting in my car and taking a 15 minute drive to refocus, it does help.
I was with some drinkers yesterday and really noticed how they drink versus how I drank. Even when my wife went a little overboard she was well within limits of drinking and was fully functional and actually threw away the last half glass of wine which, in a million years, I was never have done. In fact I would have filled up more.
People don't really care if you drink or not and I'm being literal. I was with people on Saturday and noticed that out of 10 or so people, only 1 drank like me and he was known as a "drunk" so what does that say about me. Even though I didn't think I was a drunk, others most likely did and it was kind of embarrassing.
I have more but have to run to work but hopefully my next blood test comes back with lower LFT's. I know that just taking 7 days off won't be that much of a difference but it's better than 7 days of drinking.
Not looking for medical advice here but does anyone have any good suggestion for how long to wait to get another blood test after my July results. I went from basically drinking every day to 3x a week with a few weeks with nothing. I know that cutting back helps but abstinence is the best to get you LFT's back down to normal.
Any suggestion are welcome. Not looking for negative or "my friend had cirrhosis":, etc. more encouraging if possible.
Thanks for listening, this site is super helpful to me especially now.
So here's a few things I've learned this week.
As you get older (I'm 53) it takes longer to "recover" from drinking. I'm literally just starting to feel normal after 7 days of abstinence but am still having a few odds and ends with pains, etc.
I will say that I still think of drinking each day but as the days go on, less and less. I find that doing the same thing each day helps me focus on sobriety. Whether it's watching TV at a certain time or just getting in my car and taking a 15 minute drive to refocus, it does help.
I was with some drinkers yesterday and really noticed how they drink versus how I drank. Even when my wife went a little overboard she was well within limits of drinking and was fully functional and actually threw away the last half glass of wine which, in a million years, I was never have done. In fact I would have filled up more.
People don't really care if you drink or not and I'm being literal. I was with people on Saturday and noticed that out of 10 or so people, only 1 drank like me and he was known as a "drunk" so what does that say about me. Even though I didn't think I was a drunk, others most likely did and it was kind of embarrassing.
I have more but have to run to work but hopefully my next blood test comes back with lower LFT's. I know that just taking 7 days off won't be that much of a difference but it's better than 7 days of drinking.
Not looking for medical advice here but does anyone have any good suggestion for how long to wait to get another blood test after my July results. I went from basically drinking every day to 3x a week with a few weeks with nothing. I know that cutting back helps but abstinence is the best to get you LFT's back down to normal.
Any suggestion are welcome. Not looking for negative or "my friend had cirrhosis":, etc. more encouraging if possible.
Thanks for listening, this site is super helpful to me especially now.
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Any time I start drinking it doesn't take long before that dull ache appears. It scares me every time it comes back and every time I go running to the doctor. Tests always show up fine, including ultrasound and blood work. That doesn't mean something else isn't happening.
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