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Old 02-27-2021, 03:03 PM
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Gone done fudged up

Ye well it happened. I have alot to hold together. And I'm gonna.
depression is **** tho.
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Old 02-27-2021, 03:09 PM
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Ye well it happened. I have alot to hold together. And I'm gonna.
depression is **** tho.
Ah man sorry you're struggling. I remember you from back in the day. Depression is indeed hell, for sure.
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Old 02-27-2021, 03:16 PM
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Sorry you drank FC.

Is there any way for you to get help for your depression and all the things you need to hold together?
Got to be a better solution than drinking, bro.

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Old 02-27-2021, 04:19 PM
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Yeah, I agree with Dee, FC. I had to get my depression sorted out before I was able to stay sober.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:23 PM
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I'm sorry Finalcall. Depression is so tough. Booze makes it worse and when I was drinking I couldn't hold anything together at all. Booze is the ultimate set of handcuffs in a fight with depression or any other part of life.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:38 PM
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Alcohol and depression have a very strong synergy.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:30 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that anxiety and depression are a huge trigger for me as well.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:00 PM
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I'm sorry FinalCall. Depression really sucks. De Blues.

Getting motivated can be hard sometimes. I have to do the dishes. They are not attractive.

I try not to give myself a hard time about it now, which can be motivating. Haha

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I really struggled with depression, anxiety, just everything seemed to be negative. When I got sober- probably six months in or so, I noticed I wasn’t so anxious, negative, etc. Alcohol is a depressant and I was constantly either drunk, drinking, or feeling the mental and physical effects of needing a drink.
not being in that squirrel cage makes things so much better.
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Old 02-27-2021, 09:07 PM
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Hey FC, as you know, this is a great place to start. I struggle with the D too. Make sure you're dealing with that, otherwise sobriety is so darn tough. Let's hear more when you're ready. Take care. I TRY to start by treating my body well, forgiving myself and limiting the negative self-talk after going back out. It's already bad enough without piling on.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:54 PM
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Stopped drinking 2 days ago. I really did a number this time around. Just baby steps now and deal with my actions.
I Got a few excuses. Physically sick, mental unwell, tried to deal with it with liquor... Again.
A true jekyll and hyde senario.
One I can never allow to happen again. I have never been in such mental anguish and pain ever. I've made many mistakes before but this would have to be a true rock bottom.
So I have been here for a few years quitting and such. But never truly thought It would be a permanent thing. Today it has become the most important thing in my life.
Today I start my life membership here, and on this new direction in my life. It is a must and I shall
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Old 03-02-2021, 12:22 AM
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I can only agree with kidseverywhere - for me at about ten weeks sober I suddenly realised my anxiety and low mood had gone. I only realized then because I was so used to feeling that way I didn't notice it anymore. It was my 'normal' and atound about the weeks it just lifted.

Not that they don't return, but with diet and exercise I can mostly control it. And if I can't then I can't, I am learning to live those times alongside it
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:03 AM
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I have never been in such mental anguish and pain ever.

This is the reason I stopped drinking. It was either quit drinking or commit suicide, I choose to quit drinking. I to have had depression issues my entire life but I am able to handle it now. Drinking only intensifies the depression.
You can stop drinking but it must be all you want out of life at this moment.
After 14 months I realized yesterday that I am just beginning to find myself and it feels pretty darn good.
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:36 AM
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I never even recognized.... or at least accepted, that I had depression until I was sober for quite some time. Then, clear of the booze, I was actually able to work on it.

You know darn well alcohol only makes depression worse so I won't bother opining on that.

Imagine for a moment
A very very dark and cold night
You're shivering neck deep in a lake
you cannot move
And you're slowly, slowly, slowly....
Becoming completely immobile
But still there is pain
Now and again you see a glimmer
Or is it a glow
Off in the distance, on the horizon
Maybe you want to believe in it
But you cough and sputter as you dip your face
into the water

And now imagine for a moment
That glow responds to you
You tilt your head away from that water's surface
Stretch your neck toward where you thought you saw the glow
And just ever so slightly, it glows a little brighter.
Now, imagine you choose to BELIEVE in that glow
To say out loud "OHH!!! YOU GLOW!!!! I am grateful for you!!!
And it glows brighter still.
And in that glow you find an inspiration, ever so slight
To move one leg from the muck at the bottom of the lake
And it's hard and it's painful because you've stood still and frozen so long
But you manage it!! A slight shuffle just a bit forward, toward the glow
And the glow creeps toward you from what you now see is a horizon

Hold that image, close your eyes.
Imagine that each time that glow gets a shade lighter
You can feel another muscle coming to life
You can feel a little hope
You can see there is warmth in that direction
You can feel yourself yearning to be standing on the shore
basking in full sun
And with each shift of body weight, you lean in toward that horizon
And gradually your shuffle becomes a full step
Then another
and another
and each time you step and each time you move
You give thanks
You CHOOSE to celebrate
You choose to move on
Though there is pain, the momentum builds relief
You feel yourself begin to flow
Where there was a stabbing awfulness there is now something more like buzzing
Throbbing gives way to relaxation
Fear to hope
The glow crests to a golden-edged disc
The light hits you and you feel a glorious possibility
The warmth impales you with genuine belief
The pain subsides... there is relief
And then you're moving with greater purpose
You're celebrating the whole time
The pain opens into joy
The joy is fueled by gratitude
The sun is rising
Your feet touch the sand
A warm breeze blows off the hills
The darkness is gone
The cold, cold icy grip has been banished
And you stand, in full starshine of a new day
Free.
Happy.

And yes, there still will be some cold nights.
You may stumble and it may storm
But you never have to shiver to your death
In that frigid dark water.
Ever again.

It's like this.... you can.
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Old 03-02-2021, 02:43 AM
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Hows it going FinalCall?

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Old 03-02-2021, 07:17 AM
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been here for a few years quitting and such. But never truly thought It would be a permanent thing.
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Change your mind about this one thing and decide to never change your mind about this one thing ever again and you got It.
Learning about AVRT here on SR ( great threads on these ideas in the Secular forum) showed me how to change my mind about future alcohol use and how to make a plan to never drink again. You got this , rootin for ya
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