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Old 10-20-2020, 11:02 AM
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Yay!!!! Very happy for you

Don't want to be a downer but how are you feeling about your sobriety?
No desire to drink alcohol!
Hi FF,

Glad you’re out.

How about your answer to this question:

If you are practicing AVRT and you know you will never drink again, what does recognizing a desire to drink or recognizing no desire to drink at any particular moment have anything to do with what YOU actually DRINK?

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Old 10-20-2020, 11:06 AM
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Going to have a nice bottle of non alcoholic white and some cake tonight to celebrate a month sober and my release from hospital. My mother has a bottle of regular white so she'll be joining the celebration.
Hi FF,

That sounds really nice. I’m sure it will be a memorable time for you. That is, if, while you will be drinking your whole bottle, your mother will not drink a whole bottle.

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Old 10-20-2020, 11:09 AM
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Hi FF,

That sounds really nice. I’m sure it will be a memorable time for you. That is, if, while you will be drinking your whole bottle, your mother will not drink a whole bottle.

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We're Irish. So a whole bottle isn't so unusual. I enjoy the company of drunk people when I'm sober.
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:13 AM
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We're Irish. So a whole bottle isn't so unusual. I enjoy the company of drunk people when I'm sober.
That’s actually a useful trait to have. I have that, too, pretty much from the beginning. Just so the drunk people aren’t too unpredictable and disgusting.

What about my question in the above post?
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:15 AM
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I'm glad that you're safely home, FF. But, to be honest, I think the non-alcoholic wine can be a slippery slope.
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GerandTwine View Post
Hi FF,

Glad you’re out.

How about your answer to this question:

If you are practicing AVRT and you know you will never drink again, what does recognizing a desire to drink or recognizing no desire to drink at any particular moment have anything to do with what YOU actually DRINK?

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It doesn't.
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:33 AM
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Going to have a nice bottle of non alcoholic white and some cake tonight to celebrate a month sober and my release from hospital. My mother has a bottle of regular white so she'll be joining the celebration.
Whenever I have non-alcoholic beer, I make sure it is one of the few ZERO percenters. There is zero percent alcoholic wine, so make sure that’s what you’re getting. In the US anything below 0.5% alcohol can be labeled non-alcoholic, that means 5 cubic centimeters of pure alcohol can be in a liter bottle. And you’ve mentioned in the past you are able to drink beverages like a fish. So, if you’re still on Antabuse, be REAL careful. You wouldn’t want to end up in pain.
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:34 AM
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Whenever I have non-alcoholic beer, I make sure it is one of the few ZERO percenters. There is zero percent alcoholic wine, so make sure that’s what you’re getting. In the US anything below 0.5% alcohol can be labeled non-alcoholic, that means 5 cubic centimeters of pure alcohol can be in a liter bottle. And you’ve mentioned in the past you are able to drink beverages like a fish. So, if you’re still on Antabuse, be REAL careful. You wouldn’t want to end up in pain.
It's definitely 0.0%
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:37 AM
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It's definitely 0.0%
ok, I won’t interrupt you any more, enjoy your party.
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Great stuff FF. Definitely cause celebration. Non-alcoholic, of course, wouldn't be a celebration otherwise.

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Congratulations on a month sober and your release from hospital. That is something to celebrate.

It's difficult to explain and I don't want to sound like Eeyore but I would be wary on non-alcoholic wine, beer, whatever. I just think that psychologically it is not stepping away from the world of booze. I know there are people who seem to be OK with it so there is that but do be careful.

Congratulations once again and good luck.
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I'm glad you're out, freedomfries!
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Old 10-20-2020, 02:44 PM
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I've watched many people since getting sober 29 years ago. The ones who have a long term chance don't play with or entertain with any wine, zero percentage or not. IF you are serious about staying sober I'd find another drink. Maybe a soda or tea. Yea, not as exciting but the next day you will have a much better chance of being sober.
I don't play around and even give my wine glass back or place on another table. I don't advertise or come with a long explanation, just move the glass and ask for a soda.
That's one of the things that have helped me string 29 sober years together.

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Old 10-20-2020, 04:15 PM
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I understand that you're out of hospital and you want to have that celebration you put off - but there are better ways to celebrate than with drinks that remind us so much of the bad old days IMO.

Even 0.0% beers can be reinforcing old behaviours.

Be careful man.
Cherish your sober time and that budding recovery
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