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Old 08-18-2020, 07:13 AM
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Agreed with my AV to drink after 90 days - then changed my mind

Hi everyone,

I'll be 28 days sober tomorrow (19th) and feel great

BUT

I actually temporarily agreed with my AV earlier today to drink after 90 days. It's reasoning was "hey, your liver etc will be fine by then. Plus, you don't wanna do this forever, do ya?" Well, I agreed for about 10 minutes then realised I had lost my sanity.

So I spoke to my AV again and said "Ha, good one. Almost got me" and smashed the dirty little worm on the head

I guess it was a lesson on not getting complacent if things are going well.

Hope everyone is okay today
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Old 08-18-2020, 07:33 AM
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Very well done, Owen! It attempts to be a cunning little worm, the AV, but it didn't outsmart you, because you recognised it. and it shrivels under the recognition microscope.
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Old 08-18-2020, 07:39 AM
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Good job on shutting it down!
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:08 AM
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I really don't like these trick clickbait titles that suggest someone I care about has had a drink.

Glad it wasn't true.
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by biminiblue View Post
I really don't like these trick clickbait titles that suggest someone I care about has had a drink.

Glad it wasn't true.
Sorry, Bimini. Posted it in a rush 3 seconds before leaving work. Wasn't my intention
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:13 AM
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Don't even interact with your AV. It sprouts nothing but lies. Shut it down before it gains any momentum.

It will be telling you to drink at Christmas next.
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Glad you didn’t drink. Was worried there for a minute. Funny how the AV comes when we are back to feeling good again.
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:46 AM
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Hi Owen, I understood your thread title the way I think you intended it to be. Of course being with you in the July class, I know your sobriety age and it helped.

I relate to your post, even though I feel strong in my early sobriety. May I suggest (as much to myself as to anyone else) that you keep reinforcing that “I don’t drink anymore, no matter what”-mindset.

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Old 08-18-2020, 08:55 AM
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I'm on day 173 (just had to check there!) and I often have thoughts about drinking in the future.

I rationalize this by knowing I don't ever want to drink NOW, and as long as this continues I will never drink...I genuinely do not want to drink, there isn't any will power involved for me, the 'ME' in me does not want a drink.

I also accept I was 20 years a drunk and I don't expect the addiction or habit to die off easily. Of course I still think about it, like I think about sports I used to play and people I used to know. That's ok, I think it's natural, it was a huge part of my life

Well done on thinking this through. 28 days and not drinking today...you should be proud of yourself
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:58 AM
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Bah, can an admin rename the thread please? Honestly didn't intend to mislead.
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Old 08-18-2020, 09:10 AM
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Don't worry about it Owen.

We can all survive a little misdirection. No harm done.

There are a couple people who do this on purpose...
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Our AVs are consummate liars - they know us well, especially our weaknesses. Believe NOTHING they say.

Stay close, Owen.
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Old 08-18-2020, 10:04 AM
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Well done, Owen.

It’s more of a mental thing rather than physical/liver health. Yes, after x months, the liver might be enjoying a well-earned rest, but drinking again will reset all withdrawal/urge levels to day one levels. Please accept you’ll never drink again, and your AV won’t get a look in
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Contraz on 28 day.

I discovered today my liver and kidneys are working properly again, which is a small miracle considering how much I've drunk. I jokingly said I should celebrate with a bottle of wine!

Not really funny though, and considering the doctor said they weren't working properly at one point, the next binge could put me, or anyone really, beyond the point of no return. You only get one life as far as we know, may as well take care!
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:04 AM
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Great to hear Owen! I would agree with others though and caution you to not interact with your AV that much. At least for me, if I were to do that a few times it would win for sure. I cannot even go down that path with my AV. Keep up the good work and I am happy to have you with me in the July thread. Together we are stronger.
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Old 08-18-2020, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by owen90 View Post
Bah, can an admin rename the thread please? Honestly didn't intend to mislead.
you shouldn't worry about the title. I have had the same thoughts and justifications in previous attempts, the last time Christmas last year.
After that agreement weekends were ok, then late afternoons and then beer on the way to work all over again. I'm sure when u wake up in the morning of day 91 you will be grateful to be sober
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I often have had the thought that if I get my stuff together, I'll be able to drink in the future. It's just an unrealistic dream for me though. An addiction specialist has pretty much said the same as people here - the kindling has got so advanced, it doesn't matter when I try, I'll be back to square one addiction-wise extremely quickly. So even if I could mentally change enough to drink responsibly (just about theoretically possible), it wouldn't matter because my brain chemistry is so well adapted to alcohol.

It's easier to let it go. Moderating, even if it were possible, would be an unpleasant full time job.
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A few days ago I had convinced myself to drink this weekend. All of the crazy thoughts, all of the justifications. Then I told myself to be patient and let the insanity pass. It took almost a day but I am over it and I’m so grateful. I credit my involvement with AA, my newfound commitment to lifelong sobriety and my friends at SR.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:15 PM
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I think for a lot of us once its in our heads that a drink is acceptable at 90 days or whatever, then its like well 85 is pretty good, then how about 75.

Today has nothing to do with day 90. If your like me the bad of drinking today is overwhelmingly greater than the good. The same will be true in 90 days. You can be sure your AV is overstating the upside of a drink. Don't get too caught up in what happens at day 90.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:30 PM
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I'm really glad you reconsidered.
Your life is going great because you're abstinent, not because you've suddenly learned control

they are not the same things

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