Tetrax

Made 14 months, since been experimenting with moderation. Was alright at first...
Hope everyone's doing okay x

doggonecarl

Might have to re-join you folks shortly

Shortly? Meaning you still plan to drink in the short term?

Don't wait too long to get on the recovery journey.

LumenandNyx

The sober train is always making stops for pickups. Jump on!

AAPJ

Moderation? I appreciate a good moderation discussion. Here's the best I have seen on the topic:

https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...oderation.html (My guide to moderation)

Tetrax

Yeah the cravings come back at you pretty hard.

least

You don't have to re-join us 'shortly', you can re-join us now.

LumenandNyx

^^ Just full of one-liners.

Dee74

Tetrax - you know moderation never ends well for drinkers like us - We have the experience to prove it.
Join us now before things get bad again,

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Misssy2

This is a positive sign that you are thinking about stopping.
Its hard.

fini

i get it, Tetrax.
i had to keep going back to experimenting too, though not with what i’d call moderation as much as with trying for control. and i did that until i understood and knew with certainty that my drinking would never be different.
no need for experiments any more.
rock solid no doubt same results.

so....what conclusions are your experiments leading to? anything new that you didn’t know for sure already?

Kaily

I often thought of you and wondered how you were doing. And why you disappeared.

Stop while you still can.

Mummyto2

Tried moderation, changing drinks etc always same result, come back before it all goes bad which it will 👍

Ravel

Dang! Come on, Tetrax, you had to deal with so many difficulties and you mastered them in such a stoic way. I always admired you for that.

Please, come back, you're going to master this as well!

owen90

Tried to drink in "moderation" from 2010-now. It doesn't work for me. It's a nightmare merry-go-round where I think I am handling it just fine, then before I know it i'm drinking myself to death again. A couple of beers every couple of days becomes a whole box every night. A bottle of wine at the weekend becomes two bottles of spirits (and going out drinking on top of that) etc etc.

Sober is better. I'm not tricking you or saying it because i'm brainwashed...it really is better. Everything is easier and you see the positive side of everything.

Hope you join us soon.

D122y

I am not exactly sure when it started, maybe at 6 months clean, but I wake up almost every day with a natural dopamine hang over.

if I get about 6 hours of sleep it really kicks in.

No headaches, but I am groggy and out of it for about 20 minutes.

i could never go back to drinking again because don't want to lose this.

The nature of my last recovery was slow and painful, I am terrified to relapse. I would be lieing to say otherwise.

Booze scares me to death now. That secret is between us here at sr.

That may be a key to success, a healthy fear of booze.

I have been losing a few pounds lately and it feels like there are booze toxins stored in my fat.

Lately, I am experiencing similar feelings of anxiety etc. that I had in my first few days and weeks clean.

Relapsing now would be like a one way ticket to the psych ward.

Thanks.

owen90

I second this 100%. Totally feel the same

Resurgence

Hey Tetrax,

I followed your experiences closely as they resonated with me, but I didn't feel like I had any decent advice to offer as an alcoholic with low self-esteem.

You say you might have to re-join us - why is that? Is moderation not working for you?

Steely

You've just joined the club that KNOWS moderation does not work for us. And that's a good thing.

Hope you come back sooner rather than later Tetrax.

Tetrax

Moderation has morphed into binges every few days. Been self-medicating depression and OCD, which kind of works to an extent, but then you're left with this beast.

Resurgence

I hear you.

Fourteen months is fantastic though, and although you've slipped, it speaks volumes that you're back here posting.

p.s. Love the BoJack display pic!