Class of December 2019 part 1
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Good morning everyone.
Feel awful, day 2 plus winter blues. How many more times can I put myself through this. You raise a really good point Otter. I sometimes think I don't want sobriety enough. Then I do. Then I don't. It's so complicated isn't it. I know it's the AV but it seem like ME in the moment wanting to pick up again.
Far too many deep thoughts for Monday morning. Hope everyone has a good day.
Feel awful, day 2 plus winter blues. How many more times can I put myself through this. You raise a really good point Otter. I sometimes think I don't want sobriety enough. Then I do. Then I don't. It's so complicated isn't it. I know it's the AV but it seem like ME in the moment wanting to pick up again.
Far too many deep thoughts for Monday morning. Hope everyone has a good day.
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I might be getting this wrong but someone will correct me if I am 
In Rational Recovery, where the idea comes from, they see the AV as part of us - a corrupted damaged part of us.
I didn't like that much when I started because I wanted It to be alien to me -seperate...but I prefer that view now because it means that the most of me - the good bit - can always triumph over the bad.
Its not a fight or a battle - it's over when I simply stop listening to that side of me and letting it call the shots
D
In Rational Recovery, where the idea comes from, they see the AV as part of us - a corrupted damaged part of us.
I didn't like that much when I started because I wanted It to be alien to me -seperate...but I prefer that view now because it means that the most of me - the good bit - can always triumph over the bad.
Its not a fight or a battle - it's over when I simply stop listening to that side of me and letting it call the shots
D
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Originally Posted by ReadyAtLast 
Good morning everyone.
Feel awful, day 2 plus winter blues. How many more times can I put myself through this. You raise a really good point Otter. I sometimes think I don't want sobriety enough. Then I do. Then I don't. It's so complicated isn't it. I know it's the AV but it seem like ME in the moment wanting to pick up again.
Far too many deep thoughts for Monday morning. Hope everyone has a good day.
Feel awful, day 2 plus winter blues. How many more times can I put myself through this. You raise a really good point Otter. I sometimes think I don't want sobriety enough. Then I do. Then I don't. It's so complicated isn't it. I know it's the AV but it seem like ME in the moment wanting to pick up again.
Far too many deep thoughts for Monday morning. Hope everyone has a good day.
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I'm here again.. Day 2.. I feel like I'm on wash, rinse and repeat.. Round and round we go...
Do I really want this, absolutely..
Do I know how to live a life without alcohol, absolutely not.
Every time I do this I learn more, I learn what to stay away from and what my triggers are, I'm a slow learner I guess when it comes to this but one thing I know is that I can't be a normal drinker, it always leads back to excess at some point..
Do I really want this, absolutely..
Do I know how to live a life without alcohol, absolutely not.
Every time I do this I learn more, I learn what to stay away from and what my triggers are, I'm a slow learner I guess when it comes to this but one thing I know is that I can't be a normal drinker, it always leads back to excess at some point..
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Originally Posted by Red78
I so get this, sometimes I want sobriety sooo much and then other times I want it but not enough to make a huge effort. One thing I do know though, without this support network here I wouldn't get any sober days... One day it will stick and every sober stint counts as it will give us a reference to pull from the next time we try...
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Hi all. Welcome to those familiar and those not. I am back to 2 weeks today. I really wasn't worried about Thanksgiving, but it turned out to be harder than I thought it would be. I'm thinking the progression was trying to move forward.
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Originally Posted by ReadyAtLast
I totally relate Red. I read often but sometimes just can't post, too ashamed as it's again and again and feel people must be sick of me or think I don't want it enough. But the only times I've had decent stints of sobriety are when I post on here regularly.
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Originally Posted by Dee74
Hi Coder
I was wondering how you were.
Welcome back
D
I was wondering how you were.
Welcome back
D
But I am focussing on an advent prayer retreat which is all about reflection, 'repentance'(!), and healing.
And I have 'the 'Big Book' on audible to listen to help keep my path straight on the way home.
Day 2...
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Hi guys, checking in from the ghost of December 2017 class! As I approach the 2-year sober mark, I 100% credit my classes (also January) for keeping me on track during the holiday season and beyond. You are so lucky to be restarting your life before the new year - thinking the best possible sober and happy thoughts for ALL of you. 
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Originally Posted by Red78
I'm here again.. Day 2.. I feel like I'm on wash, rinse and repeat.. Round and round we go...
Do I really want this, absolutely..
Do I know how to live a life without alcohol, absolutely not.
Every time I do this I learn more, I learn what to stay away from and what my triggers are, I'm a slow learner I guess when it comes to this but one thing I know is that I can't be a normal drinker, it always leads back to excess at some point..
Do I really want this, absolutely..
Do I know how to live a life without alcohol, absolutely not.
Every time I do this I learn more, I learn what to stay away from and what my triggers are, I'm a slow learner I guess when it comes to this but one thing I know is that I can't be a normal drinker, it always leads back to excess at some point..
The more we talk about this, the better I think. We need to relearn things in recovery and sometimes it feels overwhelming. But together we can work it all out.
s
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Originally Posted by ReadyAtLast
I totally relate Red. I read often but sometimes just can't post, too ashamed as it's again and again and feel people must be sick of me or think I don't want it enough. But the only times I've had decent stints of sobriety are when I post on here regularly.
You are loved honey, and gosh no-one is judging you either.....this took me so many years I am embarrassed to write down the number.
s xx
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Originally Posted by bobdrop
Hi all. Welcome to those familiar and those not. I am back to 2 weeks today. I really wasn't worried about Thanksgiving, but it turned out to be harder than I thought it would be. I'm thinking the progression was trying to move forward.
I missed you!!!
sLet's work our way to Christmas and not let the triggers trip us up....it is a tough time of year, but we can all do this.
s xx
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Morning folks! Checking in early on Day 2. Not feeling the greatest physically but I did get to bed sober last night and I woke up with no hangover this morning! I can relate to so much of what everyone is feeling and experiencing here. Thanks to all for sharing. It makes it a less lonely journey.
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Hi all. Third class I’ve joined after letting myself down after getting back to almost 6 weeks. Went on an all inclusive holiday to Tenerife and thought (stupidly I know) that I would be able to control it if I had a couple each day. Well we all know that is impossible for an alcoholic to do so it’s been a heavy week and feeling the effects today back on day 1. Need to sort it out for good for my young family as they need me.
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You need you Pete.....you love sober Pete. s
And of course so does your beautiful family. s
That's the thing.....who do you like better.....this is a question for all of us.....and I know we all have the same answer. So why try to do something that turns you into someone you do not like at all?
To escape? Escape what? Happiness? Feeling well?
Maybe a lot of the FOMO stuff....especially on a holiday....but unfortunately for us, choosing to say yes to alcohol means the holiday is pretty much guaranteed to be a ruin.
Anyway, WE MISSED YOU BIG TIME!!!!
We love you Pete.....so glad to see you today. ❤️
sAnd of course so does your beautiful family.
sThat's the thing.....who do you like better.....this is a question for all of us.....and I know we all have the same answer. So why try to do something that turns you into someone you do not like at all?
To escape? Escape what? Happiness? Feeling well?
Maybe a lot of the FOMO stuff....especially on a holiday....but unfortunately for us, choosing to say yes to alcohol means the holiday is pretty much guaranteed to be a ruin.
Anyway, WE MISSED YOU BIG TIME!!!!
We love you Pete.....so glad to see you today.
❤️
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