A higher power
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A higher power
What about this for putting everything into perspective. It certainly humbles me. Wanted to share.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaGuSZz-Fzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaGuSZz-Fzw
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I was converted awhile back, and strangely enough, my alcoholism was only a portion of the conversion. It was the study of other subjects I was interested in that convinced me. And I am 100% sure of a higher power. I will try to revisit this post over the weekend and watch. Hope you are well Taplow.
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Over my years in and out of recovery I've never really given all that much thought to a higher power. I was always told to 'fake it till you make it'. I've always had a very sporadic relationship with God and I've been in and out of the Christian faith for years. I was baptised as a born again Christian last year but my faith is slipping and it as present pretty much non-existent.
In terms of inclusivity I couldn't care less whether your higher power is the God of a major religion, a door knob or a toasted cheese sandwich. If it keeps you clean and/or sober then feel free to use it. I met a guy whose higher power was the meeting room table. Admittedly if that table could talk it would have had a lot to say, probably about all the drunks and junkies that rested their elbows on it over the years.
I've always thought that civilisation is just a science experiment that some kid from another planet made up for his school science fair. There's probably a huge perspex cover around the globe with otherworldly science teachers, students and parents peeking in and congratulating the student on his 'earth project'.
Natom
In terms of inclusivity I couldn't care less whether your higher power is the God of a major religion, a door knob or a toasted cheese sandwich. If it keeps you clean and/or sober then feel free to use it. I met a guy whose higher power was the meeting room table. Admittedly if that table could talk it would have had a lot to say, probably about all the drunks and junkies that rested their elbows on it over the years.
I've always thought that civilisation is just a science experiment that some kid from another planet made up for his school science fair. There's probably a huge perspex cover around the globe with otherworldly science teachers, students and parents peeking in and congratulating the student on his 'earth project'.
Natom
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For me the thing was. Something greater than me got me out of that vicious cycle of addiction. Cause I know I couldnt do it. Believe me I tried. . I mean just like some folks don't believe in miracles. Well I do. It is a miracle and a blessing. . but hey that's what works for me. How I am at day 138 sober is nothing less than a miracle. ✌
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Hi entropy 1964, yes I'm good thanks. I underwent a brief ban here but I'm restored now - apologies to mods.
I'm not sure where I am as regards alcohol, meaning I've had a day off then a day on, that sort of thing.
I want to give up drinking forever and I've given up forever many times. That seems like a joke but the longest forever was nearly 8 years, which is quite a respectable amount of time, so I know it's in my power.
Hoping I'm ready for a proper assault again. When a king went into battle there'd be a fortune teller spelling out the best time for attack according to the omens. I think the omens are looking quite good.
I think you've got to really, really, really, really, really want to be sober. Then it's easy.
So, into battle.
I hope you're doing okay. And best wishes to everyone else.
I'm not sure where I am as regards alcohol, meaning I've had a day off then a day on, that sort of thing.
I want to give up drinking forever and I've given up forever many times. That seems like a joke but the longest forever was nearly 8 years, which is quite a respectable amount of time, so I know it's in my power.
Hoping I'm ready for a proper assault again. When a king went into battle there'd be a fortune teller spelling out the best time for attack according to the omens. I think the omens are looking quite good.
I think you've got to really, really, really, really, really want to be sober. Then it's easy.
So, into battle.
I hope you're doing okay. And best wishes to everyone else.
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The video you referenced reminded me of this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d4ugppcRUE
The presenter is prominent at non duality conferences. This video is one of the best I've ever discovered on science and spirituality. The presenter was a student who once worked under Steven Hawking.
The presenter is prominent at non duality conferences. This video is one of the best I've ever discovered on science and spirituality. The presenter was a student who once worked under Steven Hawking.
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Hey Tap
Well, you sound like you know what you need to do. One of the many things that scare me about picking up again is that obsession returning, and the fight that will ensue to get me back to where I am now. Even if the train isn't completely derailed, I will have to fight. And usually I'll just drink until the train is derailed so there's that.
I hope you give up the fight and stop.
Well, you sound like you know what you need to do. One of the many things that scare me about picking up again is that obsession returning, and the fight that will ensue to get me back to where I am now. Even if the train isn't completely derailed, I will have to fight. And usually I'll just drink until the train is derailed so there's that.
I hope you give up the fight and stop.
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actually we only "battle" alcohol in active addiction.
once we completely surrender to the notion that we are truly powerless OVER alcohol and that it is continued insanity to think we can somehow becomes it's master, the battle is over.
once we completely surrender to the notion that we are truly powerless OVER alcohol and that it is continued insanity to think we can somehow becomes it's master, the battle is over.
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Originally Posted by Natom 
Over my years in and out of recovery I've never really given all that much thought to a higher power. I was always told to 'fake it till you make it'. I've always had a very sporadic relationship with God and I've been in and out of the Christian faith for years. I was baptised as a born again Christian last year but my faith is slipping and it as present pretty much non-existent.
In terms of inclusivity I couldn't care less whether your higher power is the God of a major religion, a door knob or a toasted cheese sandwich. If it keeps you clean and/or sober then feel free to use it. I met a guy whose higher power was the meeting room table. Admittedly if that table could talk it would have had a lot to say, probably about all the drunks and junkies that rested their elbows on it over the years.
I've always thought that civilisation is just a science experiment that some kid from another planet made up for his school science fair. There's probably a huge perspex cover around the globe with otherworldly science teachers, students and parents peeking in and congratulating the student on his 'earth project'.
Natom
In terms of inclusivity I couldn't care less whether your higher power is the God of a major religion, a door knob or a toasted cheese sandwich. If it keeps you clean and/or sober then feel free to use it. I met a guy whose higher power was the meeting room table. Admittedly if that table could talk it would have had a lot to say, probably about all the drunks and junkies that rested their elbows on it over the years.
I've always thought that civilisation is just a science experiment that some kid from another planet made up for his school science fair. There's probably a huge perspex cover around the globe with otherworldly science teachers, students and parents peeking in and congratulating the student on his 'earth project'.
Natom
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