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Misssy2 09-08-2019 06:15 PM

Anyone accused of drinking when your NOT?
 
I hate this....this has happened before and YES being untrusted when you have been an alcoholic most of your life comes with the territory but it doesn't make it any less infuriating.

Earlier this week my X husband was over...talking and in the middle of conversation he asked...Are you drunk? But then immediately looked in front of me...and saw the water bottle...and said OH..I'm sorry your not....Because he KNOWS if I am drinking I can't stay away from my drink and we had been chatting for about 1/2 hour at that time...So that was an easy one...He apologized..and I brushed it off quick.

But tonight I came home from a very long day taking care of my Dad from 830 to 430 (Alzheimer's) and I went down to my sons room to ask him if he had the scissors...and he GLARED at me...and said "YOUR DRINKING"???? I got SO MAD and started yelling (defensive) NO I AM NOT ******* DRINKING!...And he said YES YOU ARE...You never come down here and you tripped..(yea on the water bottle he left in the middle of the floor and it was dark)! I said FORGET IT DERECK!!!!

He came up later on...and after some conversation with me you can usually tell if I am drinking or NOT...and I know from the look on his face and how he continued a conversation with me about the clam cakes I brought home...he no longer thought I was drunk....But it is so aggravating to be accused of drinking when you are not drinking....

In the past that kind of thing would make me want to DRINK...Tonight after it was all settled...I just laughed to myself...and said...HA! No, I am not A-holes and Thank GOD.

abgator 09-08-2019 06:23 PM

Good job and not letting it push you over the edge. Can't say I know the feeling. If I were accused of drinking, I was.

Misssy2 09-08-2019 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by abgator (Post 7264404)
Good job and not letting it push you over the edge. Can't say I know the feeling. If I were accused of drinking, I was.

It made me FEEL like I was.....I was like...What am I missing?
LOL....
I get so mad I know that I have "fooled" them before and they don't trust me....but I'm not DRINKING....

Dee74 09-08-2019 06:31 PM

Hi missy - it can be hard to deal with.... but I tried to remember that for 20 years or so I WAS drunk at any opportunity - and I'd habitually lie and say I was sober.

It took a little while, but I let my actions do the talking and slowly people came to trust me again :)

D

abgator 09-08-2019 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Misssy2 (Post 7264408)
It made me FEEL like I was.....I was like...What am I missing?
LOL....
I get so mad I know that I have "fooled" them before and they don't trust me....but I'm not DRINKING....

That's the problem with lying about our problem in the past, swearing up and down we weren't drinking, knowing damn well we were drunk while doing so.

The whole "Boy who cried wolf" thing. I now talk to my parents every night, because I couldn't be trusted to answer honestly via text. But I owe everything to my parents and will do whatever I can to not worry them.

Misssy2 09-08-2019 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dee74 (Post 7264409)
Hi missy - it can be hard to deal with.... but I tried to remember that for 20 years or so I WAS drunk at any opportunity - and I'd habitually lie and say I was sober.

It took a little while, but I let my actions do the talking and slowly people came to trust me again :)

D

They are never going to trust me...I think it matters that I trust me....because when I had 8 years of sobriety...they didn't like that either....I was too "entuned" to what was going on and had input...LOL

Misssy2 09-08-2019 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by abgator (Post 7264410)
That's the problem with lying about our problem in the past, swearing up and down we weren't drinking, knowing damn well we were drunk while doing so.

The whole "Boy who cried wolf" thing. I now talk to my parents every night, because I couldn't be trusted to answer honestly via text. But I owe everything to my parents and will do whatever I can to not worry them.

I think you said something that struck me....you don't want to worry your parents.

I think my son is just very worried I will die from drinking.

abgator 09-08-2019 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Misssy2 (Post 7264418)
I think you said something that struck me....you don't want to worry your parents.

I think my son is just very worried I will die from drinking.

Absolutely. We often don't express our feelings in the best way. He probably just doesn't know how to express worry and his default reaction is to accuse you or get angry. I don't think that is surprising at all, especially coming from a male. How often do you see males react that way by default? Especially if he's seen his dad do the same towards you.

On my part, I've screwed up my parents retirement. They were getting ready to retire to their mountain house up in Tennessee within the next year, but now they won't even consider leaving here until they know I'm in control. Which obviously can't be proven in a short time frame.

We've driven our loved ones nuts with worry. On one hand, it's good to know someone cares. On the other, it's a terrible feeling to know what we're doing to them (even if sober).

lessgravity 09-08-2019 07:08 PM

Yes, though the further I get from lying to the faces of those very people about whether I've been drinking the less it happens and the less it bothers me.

Mummyto2 09-08-2019 10:05 PM

I know how you feel as the same happened to me, I lost my footing on the streps outside and all eyes were on me, but I can’t blame them even though I was mad about them thinking that, over time they will learn to trust me again fingers crossed 🤞

Misssy2 09-09-2019 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by abgator (Post 7264427)
Absolutely. We often don't express our feelings in the best way. He probably just doesn't know how to express worry and his default reaction is to accuse you or get angry. I don't think that is surprising at all, especially coming from a male. How often do you see males react that way by default? Especially if he's seen his dad do the same towards you.

On my part, I've screwed up my parents retirement. They were getting ready to retire to their mountain house up in Tennessee within the next year, but now they won't even consider leaving here until they know I'm in control. Which obviously can't be proven in a short time frame.

We've driven our loved ones nuts with worry. On one hand, it's good to know someone cares. On the other, it's a terrible feeling to know what we're doing to them (even if sober).

And on top of you trying to be sober that is a heavy burden to carry that they are sticking around because they are worried about you. :(

However, that is their choice...its still sad...I hope you continue to do well...

Misssy2 09-09-2019 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by lessgravity (Post 7264430)
Yes, though the further I get from lying to the faces of those very people about whether I've been drinking the less it happens and the less it bothers me.

True...last year when I had 10 months no one ever asked me if I was drinking.

Misssy2 09-09-2019 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mummyto2 (Post 7264467)
I know how you feel as the same happened to me, I lost my footing on the streps outside and all eyes were on me, but I can’t blame them even though I was mad about them thinking that, over time they will learn to trust me again fingers crossed 🤞

Exactly, normal little mishaps get looked at with a magnifying glass with us...LOL....Yes fingers crossed for all of us!

Mummyto2 09-09-2019 05:43 AM

As long as you know the truth, just keep going and things will get better over time 👍

August252015 09-09-2019 05:47 AM

Yes.
And me getting infuriated just wasn't an option anymore, once I was not drinking.
It takes time to regain credibility, for people to believe we are and will stay sober, and it was my responsibility to DEMONSTRATE it all the time.
Period.

Hawkeye13 09-09-2019 05:55 AM

Ever time I betrayed trust my family found me less trustworthy.

Although it hurt, I think it is the sign of healthy boundaries in people, especially children.

I kept believing my mother for years every time she would say she quit drinking but she always relapsed. This certainly impacted me negatively as I internalized the ideas that you can’t even trust those who love you the most, that somehow booze was more important than me to my mother, and life isn’t a safe or happy place and adults deal with it by drinking.

I started drinking mid teens based on the above data. I wish I had just built some armor early instead of leaving myself open to terrible pain every time she drank again. Lack of boundaries made me a sad child and adult. I choose poorly in relationships trying to recreate the dynamic with my mother to somehow ”fix” it.

People say drinking only hurts them, but the hurt to family is substantial and can last a lifetime.

MLD51 09-09-2019 05:58 AM

Yes. My situation was a little different. When I had been sober about two years, my dad accused me of relapsing (on the phone). He lived 400 miles from me. He hadn't even seen me in person in months. He thought I relapsed because I hadn't called him in some time. I hadn't called him because every time I did, he made me feel guilty about something and I felt horribly judged by him. That behavior was nothing new on his part - what was new was that in sobriety I wasn't as willing to put up with it. I never explained any of this to him. It wouldn't have made any difference. When he said that to me, I was so angry. But I didn't say anything. Just told him no, I was still sober. That was one of the last conversations we had. He died. I regret that I let that accusation affect me as much as it did.

August252015 09-09-2019 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Hawkeye13 (Post 7264629)

Although it hurt, I think it is the sign of healthy boundaries in people, especially children.

I kept believing my mother for years every time she would say she quit drinking but she always relapsed. This certainly impacted me negatively as I internalized the ideas that you can’t even trust those who love you the most, that somehow booze was more important than me to my mother, and life isn’t a safe or happy place and adults deal with it by drinking.


People say drinking only hurts them, but the hurt to family is substantial and can last a lifetime.

This is exactly why I post with a fine line between acceptance and support of PARENTS - and the harsh reality that is perfectly expressed above.

PARENTS DRINKING DEVASTATES A FAMILY. No matter what shape or form it takes and the effects last a lifetime. My mother was a dramatic tornado thru our family- with confusing as all ups and downs- and my husband and his ex-wife were the "subtle" alcoholics that his kids are just beginning to realize at 17 and 21. It won't be a one-and-done thing for them, any more than it was for me.

tomsteve 09-09-2019 08:18 AM

i couldnt get upset at anyone who was skeptical of my sobriety.with 23 years of the insanity of active alcoholism, there was no reason for people to believe i wasnt drinking. the way they learned and were confident that i was sober was through my actions over time.

Hodd 09-09-2019 08:50 AM

Whenever I see my GP about any other matter, she always gives me a lecture about drinking. She obviously thinks I’m still at it. I had a private liver fibroscan recently which showed no fat. I’ll have to show her the results.

The trouble is, people underestimate the amount of alcohol they drink when they talk to their GP. The GPs then become suspicious of every patient. That’s why I tell anyone who goes to their GP to state an exact quantity of alcohol consumed, not just a guess.



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