Malnutrition and Muscle Wasting Has anyone suffered from these while they were drinking? I had this thing...don't know when it developed but I was a binge drinker..and when I was drinking for DAYS I would not eat food...at all....One time I went 18 days without more than a few spoonfuls of peanut butter or a couple bites of bread..... When my muscles were cramping the Drs said I had muscle wasting from drinking and my muscles eating themselves because I was not giving my body nutrition. I can't be the only one that doesn't eat when they drink? To think I can't even go three hours without food now...….over 2 months sober. |
When you drink, internally your body goes into kind of a fight or flight mode to process the alcohol. So you don't absorb nutrients from anything you eat. Especially if you drink alcoholically. It's a bad substance for your health and well-being. Alcohol is also calorie intensive - so you don't get all that hungry if you're binge drinking. |
Originally Posted by ThatWasTheOldMe
(Post 7259849)
When you drink, internally your body goes into kind of a fight or flight mode to process the alcohol. So you don't absorb nutrients from anything you eat. Especially if you drink alcoholically. It's a bad substance for your health and well-being. Alcohol is also calorie intensive - so you don't get all that hungry if you're binge drinking. Then I picked up again 6 years ago and THIS TIME I go on "benders"..not really "binge" drinking...binge drinking is something people do in one sitting to get drunk as fast as they can...literally like drinking 4-5 drinks down and raising the blood alcohol really quickly. I went on "benders"...for days...drank slowly, nursed my beers or wine or vodka...and food was never an issue...Like you said I was getting my calories. |
I ate less during the last few months of my drinking but I fortunatley never stopped drinking. I was hypoglycemic long before I began to drink and I didn't realize how much I depended on the sugar in alcohol and how significantly that contributed to my alcoholism. I did end up losing about 8 - 10 pounds in the last few months but I gained it back very quickly when I stopped drinking. |
Yup. Things got pretty bad for me the last year of my serious drinking. Just looking at food, having it in front of me, would make me nauseous. . I was just fat, skin, and bones. My muscles just dwindled away. Once I quit for good, my appetite returned really in just a matter of days. Started working out again and was back to being fit once again in no time. It’s seldom too late to turn things around! |
Originally Posted by Misssy2
(Post 7259853)
For 22 years I was a maintenance drinker..I drank everyday when I was younger and while raising 2 children and working full time...and I ate 2 meals a day...and drank 8-10 beers a night....for 22 years...then I stopped for 8 years. Then I picked up again 6 years ago and THIS TIME I go on "benders"..not really "binge" drinking...binge drinking is something people do in one sitting to get drunk as fast as they can...literally like drinking 4-5 drinks down and raising the blood alcohol really quickly. I went on "benders"...for days...drank slowly, nursed my beers or wine or vodka...and food was never an issue...Like you said I was getting my calories. |
YES! So.much.damage to my body, and certainly in the ways you mention. Extreme hair thinning and awful-ness (and I had always had such pretty hair), potassium deficiency in the extreme, anemia, on and on and.... It takes time, and it will get better - and, one meaning of that is it will normalize to the place we are as we start sober - if we don't start drinking again. Take care Missy, and all. Our bodies are so special and when we begin to treat them that way, it is quite a miracle. |
Originally Posted by Misssy2
(Post 7259847)
Has anyone suffered from these while they were drinking? I had this thing...don't know when it developed but I was a binge drinker..and when I was drinking for DAYS I would not eat food...at all....One time I went 18 days without more than a few spoonfuls of peanut butter or a couple bites of bread..... When my muscles were cramping the Drs said I had muscle wasting from drinking and my muscles eating themselves because I was not giving my body nutrition. I can't be the only one that doesn't eat when they drink? To think I can't even go three hours without food now...….over 2 months sober. I've had that feeling after like a week long bender where all I've ingested is cocaine, jack daniels and full fat coke. My whole body has felt like it's shutting down because I haven't had anything to eat, I haven't slept or anything. Protein bars or energy bars are good if you can't stomach regular food. |
funny none of this is shown on the booze commercials.lol. no seriously yeah food was an after thought. I was lucky to eat one meal a day. I was in favor of liquid pork chops. That was 121 days ago. Now I look forward to seeing what I'm going to have to eat for the day. Look at recipes etc.last night I made fudge brownies super tasty. With milk. But yeah that monkey on my back didnt even want bananas unless it was the 99 bananas. Lol. No this is not a joking matter. Goes to show what this sickness does to us. Sad |
Originally Posted by dcg
(Post 7259919)
Not to nitpick on a tangent, but that's not the medical definition of binge drinking. Your 8-10 beers per evening would be considered binge drinking if you did it only once or twice a week, but since you did it every night and were physiologically dependent on the alcohol, it's considered drinking alcoholically and not binge drinking. Binge drinking is the most common, costly, and deadly pattern of excessive alcohol use in the United States.1,2,3 The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism External defines binge drinking as a pattern of drinking that brings a person’s blood alcohol concentration (BAC) to 0.08 grams percent or above. This typically happens when men consume 5 or more drinks or women consume 4 or more drinks in about 2 hours.4 Most people who binge drink are not alcohol dependent. https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-she...e-drinking.htm |
Originally Posted by Misssy2
(Post 7260111)
CDC Fact Sheet Binge drinking is the most common, costly, and deadly pattern of excessive alcohol use in the United States.1,2,3 The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism External defines binge drinking as a pattern of drinking that brings a person’s blood alcohol concentration (BAC) to 0.08 grams percent or above. This typically happens when men consume 5 or more drinks or women consume 4 or more drinks in about 2 hours.4 Most people who binge drink are not alcohol dependent. https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-she...e-drinking.htm My standard was to have four 1.5 ounce shots of vodka or scotch within the first 5 minutes to get started with my first beer, but that wasn't a binge; it was just a Tuesday (or Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat, Sun, or Mon). Five drinks within 2 hours was just poolside lounging to me, but to a non-alcoholic, it's a binge. |
Originally Posted by Natom
(Post 7260068)
Not on alcohol but on cocaine and opiates I've been in positions where I haven't had anything to eat for several days. I don't think I ever got to the point of being genuinely malnourished but definitely to the point of starving myself. I've had that feeling after like a week long bender where all I've ingested is cocaine, jack daniels and full fat coke. My whole body has felt like it's shutting down because I haven't had anything to eat, I haven't slept or anything. Protein bars or energy bars are good if you can't stomach regular food. |
Originally Posted by SoberRican
(Post 7260080)
funny none of this is shown on the booze commercials.lol. no seriously yeah food was an after thought. I was lucky to eat one meal a day. I was in favor of liquid pork chops. That was 121 days ago. Now I look forward to seeing what I'm going to have to eat for the day. Look at recipes etc.last night I made fudge brownies super tasty. With milk. But yeah that monkey on my back didnt even want bananas unless it was the 99 bananas. Lol. No this is not a joking matter. Goes to show what this sickness does to us. Sad |
Originally Posted by August252015
(Post 7260045)
YES! So.much.damage to my body, and certainly in the ways you mention. Extreme hair thinning and awful-ness (and I had always had such pretty hair), potassium deficiency in the extreme, anemia, on and on and.... It takes time, and it will get better - and, one meaning of that is it will normalize to the place we are as we start sober - if we don't start drinking again. Take care Missy, and all. Our bodies are so special and when we begin to treat them that way, it is quite a miracle. |
Originally Posted by Upstairs
(Post 7259909)
Yup. Things got pretty bad for me the last year of my serious drinking. Just looking at food, having it in front of me, would make me nauseous. . I was just fat, skin, and bones. My muscles just dwindled away. Once I quit for good, my appetite returned really in just a matter of days. Started working out again and was back to being fit once again in no time. It’s seldom too late to turn things around! Until one day...I wasn't sure if I was going to be ok anymore....the older I have gotten...the less I bounce back from a bender with alcohol. |
Originally Posted by Anna
(Post 7259892)
I ate less during the last few months of my drinking but I fortunatley never stopped drinking. I was hypoglycemic long before I began to drink and I didn't realize how much I depended on the sugar in alcohol and how significantly that contributed to my alcoholism. I did end up losing about 8 - 10 pounds in the last few months but I gained it back very quickly when I stopped drinking. |
I did the same while drinking. But I also had phases of binge eating :( I think it’s ok if you eat a little every 3-4 hours. I’m no medical expert but some say six small meals a day is better than three. I tend to follow this pattern for myself. I think if you can start eating for health and well being and listening to your body, you will be fine :) |
my eating was definitely interrupted. I can recall plenty of times where all I would have is just enough food to have in my stomach while I'd quickly down 3 glasses of wine. This would qualify as a "lunch". Interesting that you brought up muscle cramping. I would often get muscle twitches that were like subtle cramps. |
Yes definitely. I was starving, I ate nothing for weeks and that led to me having low potassium and my heart stopped. I had a fat belly and spindly legs and couldn't walk as I was so weak. My body is still changing shape at four months sober and my fat distribution is becoming more normal. It's taken a while to get muscle strength back but it's finally happening! |
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