My guide to moderation
01-14-2019
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I never tried to quite moderate so much as just "keep it together" until I could get to safe place and really "finish the job proper". Which isn't very safe is it? Drinking for me - almost always ended in blackout - and if it didn't - I was frustrated trying to drink more and more.
Moderation - is just an excruciating thing to do my brain/body. Here's a taste - now deal with cravings and the booze monster all night. Either A. be pissed you can't drink, be preoccupied about it and be a grumpy a$$ or B. drink so much you may p*ss off someone or yourself - among other things.
I do like this post and read it every time it's bumped. Thankyou LessGravity.
Moderation - is just an excruciating thing to do my brain/body. Here's a taste - now deal with cravings and the booze monster all night. Either A. be pissed you can't drink, be preoccupied about it and be a grumpy a$$ or B. drink so much you may p*ss off someone or yourself - among other things.
I do like this post and read it every time it's bumped. Thankyou LessGravity.
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I'm bumping this thread based on a conversation I had with a new member.
The freedom that you want is there for you if you can give up trying to control your drinking. Those who can moderate don't need to, those who need to can't. That simple. A better life is waiting for you.
The freedom that you want is there for you if you can give up trying to control your drinking. Those who can moderate don't need to, those who need to can't. That simple. A better life is waiting for you.
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Moderation is often something alcoholic can do if they are taking meds like
Gabapentin
Kratom
Painkillers
Any benzodiapines
All those will help a heavy drinker OR an alcoholic to lessen drinking (or stop) or become content at much lower levers of alcohol consumption.
I believe honesty should be displayed in these threads and am very surprised that people who know OP is a Kratom user are not bringing this up.
I don't know what to think of SR these days due to this.
Gabapentin
Kratom
Painkillers
Any benzodiapines
All those will help a heavy drinker OR an alcoholic to lessen drinking (or stop) or become content at much lower levers of alcohol consumption.
I believe honesty should be displayed in these threads and am very surprised that people who know OP is a Kratom user are not bringing this up.
I don't know what to think of SR these days due to this.
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Originally Posted by iAmSam 
Moderation is often something alcoholic can do if they are taking meds like
Gabapentin
Kratom
Painkillers
Any benzodiapines
All those will help a heavy drinker OR an alcoholic to lessen drinking (or stop) or become content at much lower levers of alcohol consumption.
I believe honesty should be displayed in these threads and am very surprised that people who know OP is a Kratom user are not bringing this up.
I don't know what to think of SR these days due to this.
Gabapentin
Kratom
Painkillers
Any benzodiapines
All those will help a heavy drinker OR an alcoholic to lessen drinking (or stop) or become content at much lower levers of alcohol consumption.
I believe honesty should be displayed in these threads and am very surprised that people who know OP is a Kratom user are not bringing this up.
I don't know what to think of SR these days due to this.
I would normally send a PM but as you've made remarks like this publicly in two of LG's latest threads, I think it needs addressing.
As far as I know Kratom is legal in the US, so I'm not sure what you expect 'SR' to do..
There are lots of people here who are struggling with prescription pills for example, or alcohol, or cigarettes or other legal drugs.
What ever you or I might think of it, or of people using it (I have no idea OP if was using it in 2018 when he started this thread or if he still uses it) that doesn't detract the good of this thread for me anyway.
I think Less (like everyone else here) is entitled to the same help support and understanding that all of us want for ourselves, and want to provide for others.
People come here because they are broken and want to get better.
Not everyone quits all their addictions at once.
Some of us still use prescribed meds and consider themselves still in recovery (me included)
Some of us may take paths that others don't agree with....
but we don't shoot our wounded.
Plain talking, with possible solutions, can be constructive,.
Setting out to embarrass our fellow members is not.
The fact remains this is a thread thats helped many people.
If it's really a deal breaker for you, maybe put LG on ignore?
If you need to discuss this further please PM me, out of consideration for the members who find this thread useful,
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Originally Posted by Dee74
Hi Sam
I would normally send a PM but as you've made remarks like this publicly in two of LG's latest threads, I think it needs addressing.
As far as I know Kratom is legal in the US, so I'm not sure what you expect 'SR' to do..
There are lots of people here who are struggling with prescription pills for example, or alcohol, or cigarettes or other legal drugs.
What ever you or I might think of it, or of people using it (I have no idea OP if was using it in 2018 when he started this thread or if he still uses it) that doesn't detract the good of this thread for me anyway.
I think Less (like everyone else here) is entitled to the same help support and understanding that all of us want for ourselves, and want to provide for others.
People come here because they are broken and want to get better.
Not everyone quits all their addictions at once.
Some of us still use prescribed meds and consider themselves still in recovery (me included)
Some of us may take paths that others don't agree with....
but we don't shoot our wounded.
Plain talking, with possible solutions, can be constructive,.
Setting out to embarrass our fellow members is not.
The fact remains this is a thread thats helped many people.
If it's really a deal breaker for you, maybe put LG on ignore?
If you need to discuss this further please PM me, out of consideration for the members who find this thread useful,
Dee
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I would normally send a PM but as you've made remarks like this publicly in two of LG's latest threads, I think it needs addressing.
As far as I know Kratom is legal in the US, so I'm not sure what you expect 'SR' to do..
There are lots of people here who are struggling with prescription pills for example, or alcohol, or cigarettes or other legal drugs.
What ever you or I might think of it, or of people using it (I have no idea OP if was using it in 2018 when he started this thread or if he still uses it) that doesn't detract the good of this thread for me anyway.
I think Less (like everyone else here) is entitled to the same help support and understanding that all of us want for ourselves, and want to provide for others.
People come here because they are broken and want to get better.
Not everyone quits all their addictions at once.
Some of us still use prescribed meds and consider themselves still in recovery (me included)
Some of us may take paths that others don't agree with....
but we don't shoot our wounded.
Plain talking, with possible solutions, can be constructive,.
Setting out to embarrass our fellow members is not.
The fact remains this is a thread thats helped many people.
If it's really a deal breaker for you, maybe put LG on ignore?
If you need to discuss this further please PM me, out of consideration for the members who find this thread useful,
Dee
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Personally I think the original post is one of the best posts I have ever read here. That said I think Sam is certainly entitled to his opinion. To me what/how the OP does with her recovery is not as important as the message typed in the original post. For most of us the idea of moderation is well described in the original post and it resonates with us as a great description of the truth.
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Many people I know have gotten into a drinking problem and successfully moderated to be able to drink sensibly. I'm in AA and the drink is to die thing doesn't apply to most people, however i'm guessing from your experience that you are what we would call a REAL alcoholic where you are not drinking a bottle of wine a night and fed up with getting up hazy?
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I just read this for the first time - truly excellent. It made me think of people who believe that drinking is some kind of sophisticated activity or lifestyle... You know nothing, look at the amazing elegance of us "moderators"!
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Originally Posted by Scd619x
Many people I know have gotten into a drinking problem and successfully moderated to be able to drink sensibly. I'm in AA and the drink is to die thing doesn't apply to most people, however i'm guessing from your experience that you are what we would call a REAL alcoholic where you are not drinking a bottle of wine a night and fed up with getting up hazy?
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