My guide to moderation
Thanks Lg. I will read and reread. I’m stuck in the lie that I CAN moderate. But being truthful I WANT to moderate but CAN’T.
Saw a recent post related to this thread I had written. Somethings in here I wanted to remember as well.
Moderation doesn't exist - those who need to can't and those who can simply don't need to.
Moderation doesn't exist - those who need to can't and those who can simply don't need to.
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Hi Less
Thanks a lot for this post on moderation but I think it is more about being an alcoholic than an alcoholic moderating to any great success but maybe thats the point. I remember you gave up drinking around the same time I started 31/2 months sober last year and you strike me a formidable sober man considering all the socials you have been able to go on. I suppose I am trying to reach out (while drinking) and ask you and others at what point do you decide moderation is useless and decide upon sobriety?
Thanks a lot for this post on moderation but I think it is more about being an alcoholic than an alcoholic moderating to any great success but maybe thats the point. I remember you gave up drinking around the same time I started 31/2 months sober last year and you strike me a formidable sober man considering all the socials you have been able to go on. I suppose I am trying to reach out (while drinking) and ask you and others at what point do you decide moderation is useless and decide upon sobriety?
I look back and I can't believe I lived a life for so long that was in service to alcohol - everything was colored by my need to drink - my fatherhood, my career, my health, my relationships with women, my friends, my family, my money - everything was sacrificed at the alter of my addiction. So when did I decide that moderation/still drinking was useless? I wish I knew man. I think I really knew all along but I lived in a state of permanent adolescence for so long. It was easier, as brutal as life was, just to go on pretending things would change.
But of babble there bro. I can only say that getting sober was the best decision of my life.
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Thanks Less
It sounds like you are not sure but you had the strong need to give up the booze and since then you are so happy for it. You sound so strong in your sobriety and your gains against being drunk. I feel like I am hitting myself again and again, still with a loving wife and a teenage son that is sweet but one day will challenge my habits if it goes on. There comes a time eh?... trying to talk myself into it
It sounds like you are not sure but you had the strong need to give up the booze and since then you are so happy for it. You sound so strong in your sobriety and your gains against being drunk. I feel like I am hitting myself again and again, still with a loving wife and a teenage son that is sweet but one day will challenge my habits if it goes on. There comes a time eh?... trying to talk myself into it
I suppose I am trying to reach out (while drinking) and ask you and others at what point do you decide moderation is useless and decide upon sobriety?
My advice to others is to define what moderate drinking is to you. The CDC (U.S.) defines it as
To reduce the risk of alcohol-related harms, the 2015-2020 U.S. Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommends that if alcohol is consumed, it should be consumed in moderation—up to one drink per day for women and two drinks per day for men—and only by adults of legal drinking age. This is not intended as an average over several days, but rather the amount consumed on any single day.
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-she...e-drinking.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-she...e-drinking.htm
If you find yourself regularly 'changing the goalposts' on what moderate drinking is for you then I'd suggest it's likely you have a problem.
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For me, my family has been the leverage I needed to put down the drink for good. I have a boy who is about to be a teenager and a newborn - it's exciting for me to think that my newborn will never know me as a drinker and that I will be/am able to make up to my son the years I spent in the bottle during his life. There is perhaps no deeper, more meaningful thing that having a family, my wife and my kids, who can look you in the eyes and rely you on in every way. I could not be that person when I was drinking. I am now. A different world. Not always easy, not always fun, but with more meaning and life and peace than I ever, ever had before.
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Thanks Less
It sounds like you are not sure but you had the strong need to give up the booze and since then you are so happy for it. You sound so strong in your sobriety and your gains against being drunk. I feel like I am hitting myself again and again, still with a loving wife and a teenage son that is sweet but one day will challenge my habits if it goes on. There comes a time eh?... trying to talk myself into it
It sounds like you are not sure but you had the strong need to give up the booze and since then you are so happy for it. You sound so strong in your sobriety and your gains against being drunk. I feel like I am hitting myself again and again, still with a loving wife and a teenage son that is sweet but one day will challenge my habits if it goes on. There comes a time eh?... trying to talk myself into it
PS - LG, I think I'm going to copy and paste this for one of the accounts I manage for the restaurant groups. Thanks again for the bump
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