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Old 07-16-2018, 01:27 PM
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Ok, I'm taking a break from people for now, I'm only getting conflict. I will be back when I have a better recovery plan.
Well, if you are looking for a better recovery plan, signing off on SR isn't the way to go. IMHO, you'll never find a better place to get advice from people that understand what you are going through than SR.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but you might benefit from spending more of your time focusing on why you end up in these situations. Nobody deserves to be treated the way you have been, but you don't have any control over others' behaviors, only yours. Maybe a question you should ask yourself is why is this happening to you? People like the one's you have described are usually drawn to people they think they can take advantage of. Just something to think about. John
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:08 PM
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oh dear...but this is not the time for recovery, you think, when you are going around hitting a lot of people and clearly out of control? (and no, i am not saying sexual assault is okay)

when would be a good time for recovery if not now??
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:32 AM
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oh dear...but this is not the time for recovery, you think, when you are going around hitting a lot of people and clearly out of control? (and no, i am not saying sexual assault is okay)

when would be a good time for recovery if not now??
I don't have enough support in place to recover at the moment. I am deep into addiction and waiting a week to make it to a meeting and talking to people on the internet isn't enough to help when I get the urge to drink. People say to travel to meetings but they don't realize how complicated it is. When I quit in the past it was through detox and daily meetings and I don't have those options right now. I'm also getting depressed and I don't see how quitting would have much benefit to my life.
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:56 AM
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For now I've given up on recovery. It only lasts a couple of days and it's more miserable going through this routine all the time than to quit drinking. Maybe one day I will find a solution.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:10 AM
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For now I've given up on recovery. It only lasts a couple of days and it's more miserable going through this routine all the time than to quit drinking. Maybe one day I will find a solution.
That makes me sad. There’s so much good life waiting for you! You can do this, you have the strength and the power. Will be sending love and good vibes your way.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:37 AM
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For now I've given up on recovery. It only lasts a couple of days and it's more miserable going through this routine all the time than to quit drinking. Maybe one day I will find a solution.
Sorry to hear this. Pretty clear you want and you need to get better.

Come back and check in with us sometime. You'll find the misery it might take to get sober is worth it.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:57 AM
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I could try a meeting. I could tell the people there my dilemma. Maybe someone would offer to help me get to meetings through the week
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:58 AM
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I could try a meeting. I could tell the people there my dilemma. Maybe someone would offer to help me get to meetings through the week
I love this!!!
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:01 AM
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I could try a meeting. I could tell the people there my dilemma. Maybe someone would offer to help me get to meetings through the week
I mentioned it above - have you looked into Rational Recovery?
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:06 AM
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This thread makes me so sad.

A woman's greatest asset is an education. That doesn't mean a formal alphabet after her name, it means owning herself and knowing herself, educating herself on who she is and why she does what she does.

I didn't do AA - I read the book, the dogma and chauvinism I perceived, didn't sit well with me. I did on-line and face to face meetings and my take away was, this is not for me. However there were very valuable points and methodology that I could employ in my sobriety journey.

I didn't post on SR until I had a month clean under my belt, I spent the first month learning all I could, understanding the disease, looking for people in my life, who had what I wanted. I ordered my big book from Amazon, I accessed studies through the University database, I got that first month under my belt, while running 2 companies, a nonprofit and taxiing around 3 kids. I didn't have support, I didn't ask for it either.

Sobriety has been the greatest gift I have given myself. It has been freeing, my life continues to improve. You cannot achieve it leaning on someone else, humans are fallible, your future rests on your own shoulders, you are the only one who can make a change and you are the only one who can open yourself up to a life in sobriety.

I paid $250 a session for 5 sessions of hypnosis to manage the pain of my osteoarthritis. The relief didn't come with the sessions at the doctors, it came at home, when I replay the tapes, when I learned the art of self hypnosis. I am 42, I stand over 6ft tall, and I wore heels every day for almost 20 years, I played sports, I have done irreparable damage to my joints, my children were 10lbs when they were born, my hips have never healed and during my last pregnancy, the doctors tried to get me into a wheel chair, I walked into the delivery room in 4 inch heels. Very, very slowly. My alcoholism has not helped, my recreational use of other drugs in my youth did not help. I have to take a strong stand on my health now, I need to educate myself, I need to be open. The exact same way, 9 months ago, I had to take a stand for my health and educate myself on my alcoholism.

You are not alone, you have people here, people who have been exactly where you are now. You also have a wealth of information at your finger tips on this board, please be open, educate yourself.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:10 AM
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I mentioned it above - have you looked into Rational Recovery?
No
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:12 AM
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Ha, ok!
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:14 AM
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This thread makes me so sad.

A woman's greatest asset is an education. That doesn't mean a formal alphabet after her name, it means owning herself and knowing herself, educating herself on who she is and why she does what she does.

I didn't do AA - I read the book, the dogma and chauvinism I perceived, didn't sit well with me. I did on-line and face to face meetings and my take away was, this is not for me. However there were very valuable points and methodology that I could employ in my sobriety journey.

I didn't post on SR until I had a month clean under my belt, I spent the first month learning all I could, understanding the disease, looking for people in my life, who had what I wanted. I ordered my big book from Amazon, I accessed studies through the University database, I got that first month under my belt, while running 2 companies, a nonprofit and taxiing around 3 kids. I didn't have support, I didn't ask for it either.

Sobriety has been the greatest gift I have given myself. It has been freeing, my life continues to improve. You cannot achieve it leaning on someone else, humans are fallible, your future rests on your own shoulders, you are the only one who can make a change and you are the only one who can open yourself up to a life in sobriety.

I paid $250 a session for 5 sessions of hypnosis to manage the pain of my osteoarthritis. The relief didn't come with the sessions at the doctors, it came at home, when I replay the tapes, when I learned the art of self hypnosis. I am 42, I stand over 6ft tall, and I wore heels every day for almost 20 years, I played sports, I have done irreparable damage to my joints, my children were 10lbs when they were born, my hips have never healed and during my last pregnancy, the doctors tried to get me into a wheel chair, I walked into the delivery room in 4 inch heels. Very, very slowly. My alcoholism has not helped, my recreational use of other drugs in my youth did not help. I have to take a strong stand on my health now, I need to educate myself, I need to be open. The exact same way, 9 months ago, I had to take a stand for my health and educate myself on my alcoholism.

You are not alone, you have people here, people who have been exactly where you are now. You also have a wealth of information at your finger tips on this board, please be open, educate yourself.
I just have to get through a week or two until the habit is broken. I'm not sure I agree with aa either but I'm at the point right now if I don't do something I will not stop.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:22 AM
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I just have to get through a week or two until the habit is broken. I'm not sure I agree with aa either but I'm at the point right now if I don't do something I will not stop.
For me, I have always been goal motivated. My husband hates New Years, LOL, it's the day we sit down and write our annual goals, revise the 5 year plan...

When I quit smoking, I read something, anyone can do anything for a month. That was how I first quit smoking, I will quit for a month, that month became 9, then I lit up, then I started a few year roller coaster I am finally off!

I knew I could stop drinking for a month, I knew because I had done it before. So that was the first goal, then it was three, then six, then a year, now my goal is a decade. Based on the number of times I have been divorced Forever isn't a concept I get.

Go down to the secular connections part of this site, join in on the Women in Recovery section. It might not be one recovery method that works, but a combination of many.

And sweety, I say this as nicely as possible, stay the heck outta bars in small towns. A woman alone in a small town bar, those yokels will think you are the town bicycle and treat you that way. You are not, you matter, you have a mind and a voice. You deserve respect, but it gotta give it to yourself first.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:36 AM
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I can't depend on myself to stop on my own right now unfortunately. I'm like a kid with candy, I can't resist. I don't know about detox, I was kicked out of it a few years ago and it was in a different city. Meetings seem like the only solution but waiting a week for one doesn't work.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:38 AM
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For me, I have always been goal motivated. My husband hates New Years, LOL, it's the day we sit down and write our annual goals, revise the 5 year plan...

When I quit smoking, I read something, anyone can do anything for a month. That was how I first quit smoking, I will quit for a month, that month became 9, then I lit up, then I started a few year roller coaster I am finally off!

I knew I could stop drinking for a month, I knew because I had done it before. So that was the first goal, then it was three, then six, then a year, now my goal is a decade. Based on the number of times I have been divorced Forever isn't a concept I get.

Go down to the secular connections part of this site, join in on the Women in Recovery section. It might not be one recovery method that works, but a combination of many.

And sweety, I say this as nicely as possible, stay the heck outta bars in small towns. A woman alone in a small town bar, those yokels will think you are the town bicycle and treat you that way. You are not, you matter, you have a mind and a voice. You deserve respect, but it gotta give it to yourself first.
You have a husband to be accountable to, I live alone and nobody is stoppingme from doingwhat I want.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:14 AM
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You have a husband to be accountable to, I live alone and nobody is stoppingme from doingwhat I want.
You are the only one that can hold yourself accountable and stop drinking Laura. You've been given a wealth of advice here and you seem to be ignoring most of it. That's common when we are actively drinking, so don't feel that it means you are unique in that respect. But realize that all of us have been exactly where you are so we know that change is possible. Even living alone - many have done it and so can you.

The bottom line though is that quitting is a choice, and only you can make it. Meetings won't stop you from drinking if you don't really want to. Even detox and rehab won't if you aren't ready - plenty of people go to rehab and stop at the liquor store on their way home and start drinking again.
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You are the only one that can hold yourself accountable and stop drinking Laura. You've been given a wealth of advice here and you seem to be ignoring most of it. That's common when we are actively drinking, so don't feel that it means you are unique in that respect. But realize that all of us have been exactly where you are so we know that change is possible. Even living alone - many have done it and so can you.

The bottom line though is that quitting is a choice, and only you can make it. Meetings won't stop you from drinking if you don't really want to. Even detox and rehab won't if you aren't ready - plenty of people go to rehab and stop at the liquor store on their way home and start drinking again.
There wouldn't be rehab and meetings if everyone could stop on their own. I know what you mean that I have to make a choice but I am in too deep right now, my mind isn't thinking clearly. I can't make it past two days trying to do this on my own. How many people on here keep relapsing trying to do it on their own? I have made the choice, I'm just not sure how I'm going to accomplish it.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:31 AM
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You have a husband to be accountable to, I live alone and nobody is stoppingme from doingwhat I want.
I am accountable to me, and me alone.

My husband is a horrible enabler. He didn't realise how bad my problem was, add in the 18 hour days, the Sunday afternoon phone calls that he's leaving in 2 hours for a week or two... We have an amazing marriage, it is getting better all the time, but I have more of a relationship with his voicemail than him at times. The man let me adopt a herd of Shetland ponies for no reason other than I felt we could give them a good home. Last night auto correct was almost on my side and I was happily headed to adopt a cross beak rooster until he figured out I was talking about a chicken. The no poultry rules stand ROFL.

If I got sober for him, I'd have never got sober. He thought I should just moderate and I'd be OK, or that I could just drink one or two on special occasions.
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There wouldn't be rehab and meetings if everyone could stop on their own. I know what you mean that I have to make a choice but I am in too deep right now, my mind isn't thinking clearly. I can't make it past two days trying to do this on my own. How many people on here keep relapsing trying to do it on their own? I have made the choice, I'm just not sure how I'm going to accomplish it.
That's just your addiction talking Laura. Meetings don't stop you from drinking. Not even sponsors do. Most outpatient and rehab programs also require you to be alcohol free for at least 72 hours before they will even take you in.

You say you've made a choice, but in the same post you say you aren't thinking clearly and can't make a choice. That's very true - we don't think clearly when we are actively drinking, because addiction is not logical. Arguing with people here isn't going to help you either, because we all know exactly what your side of the argument will say - because it's your addiction running the show. And we've been there.
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