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Surrender
That’s the key for an alcoholic to get and stay sober. No fight, just total acceptance that the towel is thrown in and the fight is simply over; it can only be won by surrender and acceptance that it’s the first drink that does all the damage.
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How many Newcomers are ready to surrender and totally accept their alcoholism to their innermost selves? My experience was that this was pivotal in my recovery. Once you know what you are you can move forwards. Just my own experience of course but so grateful for the surrender and grateful acceptance of my alcoholism. This has given me many happy years of contented sobriety.
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I'm glad that works for some but admitting your powerlessness over something, simply disempowers the person. You can hide behind that if anything goes wrong.
To me, It's counter intuative.
"You will never truly get over something as long as you consider IT to be superior to you, and you powerless before IT.
To me, It's counter intuative.
"You will never truly get over something as long as you consider IT to be superior to you, and you powerless before IT.
What if you knew someone who was wrecking his life with alcohol. It was so painful to watch you cut off contact with that person. Then, 2 years later you saw them and they looked better. So you talk to them and tell them they are looking better.
"Oh, yeah," he tells you, "about 18 months ago I went on a 4-day bender. At the end of it a Giant Invisible Poop Demon appeared to me and told me he was going to follow me around, floating above my head." He points up, but you see nothing. "He is up there," your friend says, "but he only reveals himself to me. Anyway - if I ever drink again that Giant Invisible Poop Demon is going to kill me by taking a giant dump on my head. So, I can't drink anymore. Now I have a great job, a great relationship with my wife and kids, everything is going great for me!"
How important would it be to tell him there aren't Giant Invisible Poop Demons?
Best of Luck on Your Journey!
"Oh, yeah," he tells you, "about 18 months ago I went on a 4-day bender. At the end of it a Giant Invisible Poop Demon appeared to me and told me he was going to follow me around, floating above my head." He points up, but you see nothing. "He is up there," your friend says, "but he only reveals himself to me. Anyway - if I ever drink again that Giant Invisible Poop Demon is going to kill me by taking a giant dump on my head. So, I can't drink anymore. Now I have a great job, a great relationship with my wife and kids, everything is going great for me!"
How important would it be to tell him there aren't Giant Invisible Poop Demons?
Best of Luck on Your Journey!
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Accepting my powerlessness was the thing that gave me my power back over alcohol. So grateful for it. One thing I’ve learned and seen time and time again is that intellectualising the solution to alcoholism is a pointless exercise. The currency of recovery is peace, serenity and hope. This is what I value the most in my life.
Grateful to be sober.
Grateful to be sober.
I'm glad that works for some but admitting your powerlessness over something, simply disempowers the person. You can hide behind that if anything goes wrong.
To me, It's counter intuative.
"You will never truly get over something as long as you consider IT to be superior to you, and you powerless before IT.
To me, It's counter intuative.
"You will never truly get over something as long as you consider IT to be superior to you, and you powerless before IT.
many here took it further than that.
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I'm glad that works for some but admitting your powerlessness over something, simply disempowers the person. You can hide behind that if anything goes wrong.
To me, It's counter intuative.
"You will never truly get over something as long as you consider IT to be superior to you, and you powerless before IT.
To me, It's counter intuative.
"You will never truly get over something as long as you consider IT to be superior to you, and you powerless before IT.
Alcohol is a behemoth with god knows how many gallons sitting on shelves across the world, with truckloads being pumped out every day.
Alcohol will always win in you walk up to it's table. Simply ignoring it and walking away is it's worst nightmare, as you won.
To be fair there are varying ideas about this from different methods, and I know long term very happy SR members from both sides of the fence.
Polite reasoned discussion is fine. Polite disagreement is also fine....but I think threads like this work best when we share our experience - rather than our opinions on other peoples experience....
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Polite reasoned discussion is fine. Polite disagreement is also fine....but I think threads like this work best when we share our experience - rather than our opinions on other peoples experience....
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