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Old 02-15-2018, 12:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Weekender 15-19 February 2018


A little late this week, it's been a long day - so I'll keep it short

I hope everyone has a great rest of the week and a wonderful weekend



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Old 02-15-2018, 12:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-15-2018, 01:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks, Dee.

That is an extremely good quote!

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Old 02-15-2018, 03:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Iím in! Thanks for the quote Dee. Itís interesting- I brought the topic to My meeting last night and the topic I shared was about fear.

Happy Thursday friends.
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Good morning folks! and thanks Dee, that quote has given me pause for thought. I've recently had an opportunity presented me and I'm trying to figure out whats holding me back.
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In, fear was partly responsible for my excessive drinking, it also made it harder to quit. Overcoming fear should beon the school curriculum.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi, weekenders.

Thank you for the thread, Dee.

I love the quote too, though I don't completely agree that the fear is inflicted only by ourselves. Often it is inflicted by other people's projection of their insecurities. Especially people we are supposed to respect and look up to. So fear sneaks in our mind and plays the role of a lens we are seeing the world through. It we've been living with this fear long enough we starting acting automatically upon the fear-crippled thinking pattern.

It's our job responsibility to make a regular assessment of our fears and ruthlessly weed out those which impair our life. For me it's almost a day job)

Have a good one, weekenders.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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MidnightBlue, so good to hear from you.

I've been getting a lot of addictive thoughts lately, I have some really big stresses happening right now and that tends to invoke circular thinking, which is always a problem. Anxiety, FEAR of what may happen, it's all there a couple times a day. Then I talk myself down. "God my thoughts about _ _ _ _ _ _ are unmanageable. Please direct my thinking on this."

So far it works 100% of the time. Settles me down, stops the ruminating.

Seems like fear can be a good thing, it keeps me focused on what I need to do next. It's a survival mechanism. Without fear the early humans would have watched the saber-tooth tiger eat their arms and just kept smiling, yeah? Completely normal to have fear, it's how I perceive it and if I can use it to my advantage to inspire or as a call to action.

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I took a bike-ride tour through the tulips at peak season one year. Yeah, the flowers were beautiful but the 30 MPH cold wind and horizontal rain across the valley, not so much fun for a 20 mile bike ride. I was supposed to meet up with a group, but I never found them. I got lost for four miles; under-dressed and before cell phones, and out in the middle of nowhere, Skagit Valley. It could only have been worse if the bike had broken down. I drive to the tulips since then. It was an adventure. Brr.

The flowers peak and there is a flurry of tourism for one week. It's a mad dash for images and then a barren valley till next year.



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In for a sober weekend.

That image is prettier bigger. Oh, well, dunno why it won't link from the Google....
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:13 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Sorry about stresses, Bim.

The pic is totally gorgeous!!! Thank you for posting it.
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"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
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Old 02-15-2018, 07:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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"We are more often scared than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality" - Seneca
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Old 02-15-2018, 07:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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A little bit of fear is a healthy thing. For example, I feel fear if a see a vicious dog not on its leash, or if I'm close to the guardrail of a really high balcony. In such situations, fear compels us to take notice of threats in our surroundings and act accordingly, in the name of self-preservation, often triggering the "fight or flight" reflex.

The problem (and its a BIG problem for alcoholics) is irrational fear. Feeling fear when there are no real threats to our well-being. Fear of a social situation, for example, or fear of a new experience, like a new job. The "fight or flight" reflex gets triggered when it is not needed and, indeed, is not desirable. And unfortunately, so many of us have, in the past, used alcohol to dull that fear, rather than deal with those situations rationally. Then when we choose not to use alcohol, we get stuck with a lot of irrational fear to deal with.
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In, fear was partly responsible for my excessive drinking, it also made it harder to quit. Overcoming fear should be on the school curriculum.
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"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
And this. Thank you trach. ♥♥
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"We are more often scared than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality" - Seneca
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I hear you Midnight honey, but the fear that has choked my life is of my own making. ♥♥

Sending you oodles of love dearest bim. ♥♥
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That Seneca quote really resonates with me, too.

The external obstacles in our lives can definitely cause fear; but it is within our power to process them without letting them paralyze us.

As many times as we are tempted to freak out, we should take a step toward something that will produce calm: get advice, make a plan, meditate (something guided might help you concentrate), exercise, When you’ve done everything in your power to neutralize the problem, the best thing to do is divert your mind while waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Even if the worst happens, at least you have a starting point for your climb back to safety.

Even if the frightening external factors are your beyond your control, there’s never a place so desperate that you can’t summon your own capability of reason.

That’s something nobody can take away from you.
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That Seneca quote really resonates with me, too.
the Stoics are quite good sort this sort of thing:

"People are disturbed not by things, but by their response to them" - Epictetus

which in turn formed the basis for some of REBT (forerunner of CBT), in particular the A-B-C tool, which is worth a read if you haven't seen it before:

http://livingunbound.net/lessons-res...-therapy-rebt/

it's a way of looking at why we get anxious, angry, etc. about things, & whether, rationally, we need to do so. I use it all the time, not just for recovery stuff, but as a dealing-with-life tool too.
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DesertDawg you are bang on with your observation that it is irrational fears that are the debilitating ones. The really annoying thing is that deep down, a part of me knows that it is irrational. Sometimes I get anxious about something and I am not even sure what it is.
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