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Old 01-08-2018, 05:47 AM
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Find new men, not boys!!!!

OK, seriously though. That's my suggestion.
It may be hard to cut these ties, but it's for the best.

The longer you are sober, the more comfortable you will be in your skin to enjoy the sober sex.

I used to have to be wasted to have sex, obviously, not any more.
But the sex has gotten so much better, it's like I got out of my head and just enjoyed it.

In my honest opinion.
I thought I read one of your posts that this guy was nothing but a fling.
If that's the case it should be easy to drop him, as I believe you stated it was never meant to be serious, just fun.
Work on you and your sobriety, I'd give it a year before you even think about dating AKA distractions

You got this darling!!!!
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:03 AM
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How are you doing today Wildflower? Check in and let us know how you are.
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post
This isn't my husband...it is actually a new relationship. And, of course he saw right away that I drink too much. But, he said that as long as "my drinking" benefited him (meaning I could do more to please him sexually) that it was fine. However, once I'm not pleasing him, I had better stop..OMG....I am so confused!
something that might help stop the confusion:
as long as "my drinking" benefited him
However, once I'm not pleasing him

THAT is reason to dump him and take care of you
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post
What if this is all my fault? Maybe he is a good guy, who just likes sex? What guy doesn't? Maybe I screwed this up? He wasn't impressed today when I didn't want to stay at his house... (Ive only known him 1 week) UGH
good guys do NOT say
as long as "my drinking" benefited him

good guys would be supportive of your recovery.
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post

This is messed up, but it seems as though I'm looking for permission to be selfish and look after myself today....tough luck what he wants....??
you have permission form everyone here and yourself to be selfish and take care of you.

tough luck what he wants-yup. tough luck what EVERYONE wants except the most important person in the equation-you.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:00 AM
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wildflower, it broke my heart to read this thread.

This guy is a shameless predator.

Please, please, please run and don't look back.

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Old 01-08-2018, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post
What if this is all my fault? Maybe he is a good guy, who just likes sex? What guy doesn't? Maybe I screwed this up? He wasn't impressed today when I didn't want to stay at his house... (Ive only known him 1 week) UGH
It's not your fault, reading about guys like this creap make me feel bad to be a guy.

leave, don't look back. It's not you it's him. The guy is trash like half the human race.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:38 AM
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Thank you everyone, your responses have touched my heart and soul. I am home, safe and sound, and sober. I will be evaluating my choices, as I know that as a sober person I wouldn't even consider doing these things, it's not the real me.

Ladies, how long did it take before you were able to have a healthy intimate relationship, sober. I have never done it, and I'm afraid I won't ever be able to...that means living the rest of my life alone. At 47, that's a long, lonely road.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post
Thank you everyone, your responses have touched my heart and soul. I am home, safe and sound, and sober. I will be evaluating my choices, as I know that as a sober person I wouldn't even consider doing these things, it's not the real me.

Ladies, how long did it take before you were able to have a healthy intimate relationship, sober. I have never done it, and I'm afraid I won't ever be able to...that means living the rest of my life alone. At 47, that's a long, lonely road.
I'm not a lady but I'm sure you'll be fine. You probably don't need a relationship like that at this point as it just adds stress. Work on yourself first, when you feel comfortable with yourself again you'll have a clear head and find a decent man. Note the decent men are not the guys just hitting on you, sometimes you have to sit back and wait for the trash to move on.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post
Ladies, how long did it take before you were able to have a healthy intimate relationship, sober. I have never done it, and I'm afraid I won't ever be able to...that means living the rest of my life alone. At 47, that's a long, lonely road.
Not one of the ladies so, it's easy for this guy to call: Bullflop.

When you start caring for yourself, you will become more attractive to other people that care about themselves. Good men will see your health and be attracted to you. You won't be alone.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:09 AM
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Wildflower. Glad to hear you are okay. When I first got sober (years ago) I was 30 and sex and drink went together. It took me 10 months, I won't forget cos I wanted it all the time but couldn't do it sober! That period I was sober for 4 years and went on to have great intimate sexually fulfilling relationships.

Please don't go near that man again, I have just ended my relationship because he wanted me drunk, for pretty much the same reasons as your but mainly cos I was easier to manipulate when drunk. It has been a very hard 3 years and its taken its toll on my self esteem, I began to think I would never break free, of him or the booze. Please beware.
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wildflower, until you have built an intimate, loving, relationship with yourself, you will never find one with someone else.

I hope you will put your energy 100% into yourself, without distractions. Once you get healthy for you, you will attract healthy people into your life.

47 is just a number, I am about to be 59 years and I am here to tell you, it is never too late for love but you need to love yourself #1 first.

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Old 01-08-2018, 10:09 AM
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No offense man, but based on your history with men or any relationship, you might want to consider therapy. You seem to attract these pigs and they seem attracted to you. It's definitely not your fault for these predators behaviors, but you must be doing something to attract them. John
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:15 AM
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Hi WF
Glad you are doing ok this morning.

Sooooo, cart before the horse girl. Slow your roll. Haha. I mean that with humor. One step at a time. Sober. For. a. long. time. Accepting that alcohol is not an option/coping mechanism, and developing new coping mechanisms will take up all your energy.

A man will not make you. External things....they don't determine who I am or how I see myself. They can't. Cause what happens when those external things go away, or don't live up to expectations? I'm lost.

After you have some sober time, you can start looking at codependence. For me, in simple terms, that means my perception of myself is determined by what you think of me. Wow. What could possibly go wrong? So I'm always searching for me, my meaning, my purpose in you, or him, or it, or a bottle.

Frankly I don't know if I ever want another intimate relationship. I'm 52 and seem to be perfectly fine with that. Soooo that probably isn't completely healthy. I've gone the opposite direction. You can't STOP looking for a partner, I can't imagine anyone sitting on the couch next to me. Except my daughter or my cat. The whole concept kind of freaks me out. But I'm ok with that now. Truly, I believe I need about 5 years sober before I'll consider taking another hostage...I mean, having another relationship But each day is a new day. Today I think I'll sit with my cat.

Hang in there. You have plenty of time.
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Old 01-08-2018, 04:24 PM
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I doubt your romantic life is over wildflower

For years I looked to people to complete me, if not fix me - I was a very needy partner. All my validation was external.

That meant that, even tho I was a good guy, my relationships never lasted long...

or they were doomed from the start because Miss Right was more often than not Miss Right There.

When I got into recovery I hadn't been in relationship for a long time - I was drinking all day everyday - no room for another person in that.

I began to work on myself as the real me began to emerge again.

It took a little while, but I learned I wasn't as bad as my addiction had told me I was and that rather than being terrified of my own company I kinda liked it.

I finally got some internal validation. some peace and some happiness from life - and it wasn't dependent on someone else.

When someone did come along, all that work made all the difference in the relationship I've had since those days - going on 10 years now.

I'm sure there are good things ahead for you too wildflower - but take some time out to focus on you first

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Hi Wildflower,

Glad to here you are sober today, and very glad you checked in. The advice about focusing on you and getting healthy both physically, and emotionally is very wise. The intimate piece will fall into place once you start to feel more confident and secure.

Do you have a counselor?
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Ladies, how long did it take before you were able to have a healthy intimate relationship, sober. I have never done it, and I'm afraid I won't ever be able to...that means living the rest of my life alone. At 47, that's a long, lonely road.
seems the fear of life with alcohol still in it would be more of a conern.
seems the fear of life still in this current relationship is more important.
im 50,single and LOVE it.
because i learned to love myself. not avoiding a relationship,its just not necessary.
because i love myself.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:34 AM
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Hi Wildflower,

I think you are headed back to work today. Just wanted to check in and wish you a good day. Check in later and let us know how you are doing.

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:09 AM
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LEAVE HIM!

Focus on YOU and YOUR sobriety. Dont give into a man for a year, build up some sober YOU time and get to the root of who you are, what your boundaries are and go from there. Maybe a co-dependency forum will be helpful as well!

Blessings & honest tough love
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wildflower70 View Post
Hi guys,

I posted in another thread...but I need immediate help...

This is getting bad guys.........he tells me he wants me " sober", but yet he tells me to drink more so I am 'friskey"...this is borderline sick, I have told him I have a drinking problem, and I should just be....But he is willing to put my life in jeopardy so I can please him sexually. I need some serious advice...this has been a major cause of relapse for many years...me needing to drink to be intimate, and the men in my life telling me to drink so I can be relaxed enough to please them. Oh god...i need to talk about this....please don't be offended SR...
I highly doubt that anyone is offended. Are you married to this man? If not....if I were you,..I'd just NOT have a boyfriend right now and focus on your sobriety. Problem solved ...with the intimacy thing, anyway. No man that actually cares about you would put your health at risk for sex. That is just selfish and down right sick. Id just dump this guy and focus on YOU..... much love...
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