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Old 10-03-2017, 12:34 PM
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My thoughts on NA beer is for me anyway, is like poking the tiger. But, if you can manage it by drinking a few and stopping, then go ahead.
The problem for me is the mental obsession.... I may convince myself that "hey this isn't giving me the effect I want" so why not have a few real beers.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:35 PM
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Personally I drank l to get drunk. I couldn't think of anything worse than non alco wine or beer - it looks like the real thing, tastes like the real thing, same glass, same smell, same taste. The only thing it doesn't do is get me drunk which would just annoy me so I probably would drink, or at least be annoyed I couldn't.

Too many associations especially as there are so many lovely non alco drinks around. changing habits and associations is key for me. Going to drinking venues and situations in the first week of sobriety isn't something I could or would do. Too risky. Yes of course life goes on but no need to test yourself so early on.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:10 PM
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I think it would be such a huge trigger for me, I'm really enjoying ginger ale and cranberry juice now.
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:25 PM
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I think it's more about behaviour than alcohol content. I could drink a 0.00 % NA beer and still feel the old pull.

Orange juice has alcohol in it?

Oh damn I drink tons of the stuff
Yes, Orange Juice and some colas may contain trace elements of alcohol - it's a real red herring of an argument tho IMO Chilled

I read something like 10 thousand cans of Pepsi might give you a alcohol buzz...

I think the sugar and caffeine would finish me off long before that point tho

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I was just considering O'Douls earlier today and then found this post. I finally told myself that having an n/a would not be owning my sobriety. If I'm going to do this, I want to own it and be proud of it, not hide behind a simulation of what used to be. I then poured a cranberry and club soda and wondered if I was doing the same thing. I used to drink vodka and cranberry.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:19 PM
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In my first attempt at sobriety, in which I remained sober for over a year, back when I was about 25, I drank NA beer and had no issue.
Now though, there is no way I would touch the stuff. Beer was no even my main drink of choice but I want no part of anything that even remotely resembles alcohol. I particularly would NEVER consider NA wine as wine was my drink of choice.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:27 PM
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I loved beer , everything about it but wanted the effects too so NA beer for me would be a gateway to the shop for the real thing .
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:48 PM
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Bobdrop, I wonder the same thing- I have still been drinking tonic, even though I used to have it with vodka.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bobdrop View Post
I was just considering O'Douls earlier today and then found this post. I finally told myself that having an n/a would not be owning my sobriety. If I'm going to do this, I want to own it and be proud of it, not hide behind a simulation of what used to be. I then poured a cranberry and club soda and wondered if I was doing the same thing. I used to drink vodka and cranberry.
because of the behavioural thing, I suggest you give it some thought, Bob.

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Old 10-04-2017, 12:44 AM
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It would interesting to hear about experience of relapse through drinking NA beer or wine.

I never drank beer or wine for the taste anyway it was for effect and I tolerated the taste. So I am not inclined to drink NA.

The very smell of red wine even when I walk in a room I don't like. It smells like something sour and off. I also stopped drinking beer 10 years ago because suddenly I could no longer stand the taste and moved to cider and spirits.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:17 AM
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Just a "relapse" story. My neighbor decided to quit drinking when I did back in Feb. He was doing really well. Working out, dropping weight, looking really healthy, etc. Well, one day he came home with a bunch of NA beers. He told me they tasted really good and he was excited to have found them. I think he made it on NA beers for about 3 weeks. Jump to today, where he is back to going to the convenience store at 8am to get his real beer to drink all day. Truth be told, I don't think he was ready. But would he have made it without those NA beers? Now we will never know.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:40 AM
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Like others have said.. When I drink, I want to get drunk. I do use one bottle of NA beer when I make chili though.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:56 AM
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What about steak and ale pie , is that allowed
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:09 AM
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I use to drink NA beer and tell myself that "I liked the taste of beer". Truth is I only drank to get annihilated. I don't think it brought me any closer to a relapse but considering I only drank beer for above mentioned reasons it seemed rather pointless. I also found that NA beer brought unwanted attention to why I would drink something like that. My sponsor also mentioned that there would be those in recovery that would frown upon such choices. I don't really care so much about that but I really felt like I was holding onto something unnecessarily in any case.
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:39 AM
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I bought a few the other week and quite enjoyed them. Thought it was no big deal but the following morning I found myself skulking round the fridge at 11am trying to decide if I should have one. I dont do that with diet coke!
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:30 AM
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I did occasionally drink NA beer the first time I got sober. This time, though, I'm not going to bother. As a side note, I don't mind cooking with alcohol (unless it's something outrageously boozy). Go figure.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:34 PM
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seeing as we're getting into alcohol in food - not as much of it burns off as you think.



I know many people find this over cautious or even funny - but I find alcohol free cooking is a comfortable place for me to be.

It fits in with the way I run my recovery.
Food tastes better too IMO

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Old 10-04-2017, 04:42 PM
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Thanks for sharing that table Dee😀 I've seen it before but it's definitely a useful reminder about the reality of cooking with alcohol🤔
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Old 10-06-2017, 01:36 AM
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Thanks Dee, I was talking about this over on another thread the other day. I made bolognese with some red wine and wondered if I should have. It was a 3 or 4 hour simmer so I am pleased to see that by that chart the alcohol was almost completely gone. I think next time though, I'll leave it out.
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Old 10-06-2017, 01:56 AM
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That's a real surprise to me. I'd always heard that cooking with alcohol took the actual alcohol out and just left the flavour. I avoid using it it cooking, mainly because I used to drink the rest of the bottle then open another for the meal. I figure better safe than sorry!
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