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Old 09-17-2017, 03:28 PM
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I had a valium taper to manage the withdrawal for 8 days.

I had a klonopin addiction. That stuff was evil, and the worst withdrawal ever.

I'd be very cautious with any benzos, particularly taking them daily. They are not booze in a pill, but they do affect many of the same receptors as alcohol, and alcohol and benzos are cross tolerant with each other.

There are other anxiety meds out there that don't have the addictive potential that benzos do.

I would feel more comfortable if you got the prescription from a psychiatrist with addiction and recovery experience. GPs are just not trained to dispense psychiatric medication. Reaching for the 'script pad and prescribing a benzo is very old school, GPs will often prescribe an SSRI antidepressant without really knowing what that will do.

There are also numerous ways to learn to manage anxiety without medication as mentioned above. Cognitive therapy has proven useful to me.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:59 PM
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A woman in my AA meeting said she might need to reset her sobriety day because she took Motrin PM. That seems really extreme to me.
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Old 09-17-2017, 11:05 PM
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:59 AM
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Hi, Only in my opinion but if your GP prescribed a short course of 10 x 2mg diazepam to give you a bit relief its not breaking sobriety rules . However diazepam long term is as bad . Ive been there and abused diazepam and its not easy to come off them . I blame the GPs in UK for over prescribing .

Following my last drink ( this time) I have also said in a post somewhere my anxiety is "through the roof) well I,m 6 weeks sober and much better ,some days better / worse than others .
I was referred to an online course of CBT ( beating the blues) of which I am about to do session 4 .
If you can try to understand that our central nervous system takes a hammering when drinking and takes time to heal .
Good reading in Clair Weekes . And this NOTHING WORKS - NOTHING WORKS
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Old 09-18-2017, 02:47 AM
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I take 2mg Valium daily as prescribed by my psychiatrist. My intent is to come off it entirely, but must say that it has been difficult for me to stop altogether even at such a small dose.

I think some people are more sensitive than others when it comes to ANY drugs, hence my difficulty in stopping at 2mg?

I do not see the taking of the 2mg as "breaking my sobriety date", nor as "alcohol in a pill" if taken therapeutically. I would far prefer to take 2mg Valium than to drink. Just my opinion. To each her/his own. Horses for courses

Naturally the advices given on CBT and other methods of reduducing anxiety are good and better, but sometimes a 'reprieve' is needed. Just remain aware of its addictability, if that's a word

Wishing you the very best.
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Old 09-18-2017, 02:50 AM
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I take alprazolam twice a day for anxiety and haven't had any problems with it. I do not abuse it, and often don't have to take it at all.
Similar experience here.

I am 19 mo sober and as Anna suggested, have tools I have learned to deal with my anxiety - I also have had an rx for ativan (lorazepam) since I quit drinking, and I do use it. It is 10mg up to 3x a day. I am completely honest with my therapist, careful about how I take the pills and always have some leftover at the end of the month. For me, meds I need are absolutely OK and are a complement to my AA program and support my sobriety.
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Old 09-18-2017, 04:27 AM
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I agree with going to see a psychiatrist who specializes in substance abuse. Any medical professional I've seen with that expertise has frowned on benzos. I'm prescribed a number of medications for anxiety and depression, none of which are addictive and as long as I take them, that discomfort is bearable.

Once I was sober a month or so, the anxiety got more prominent and the depression less so. My therapist says this is not unusual - once the depression starts lifting it can unveil the underlying anxiety. Two years in you may be experiencing post acute withdrawal and/or you may be dealing with unresolved anxiety that's just a part of your background or makeup.

As you can tell, I am not in the least bit opposed to medication and I personally don't agree with hard-liners who are absolutely against it. As long as it's prescribed by someone who knows what they are doing! My medication does not make me feel high or otherwise outside of myself and it's helpful for now. One day I may be able to start eliminating some, but in the meantime I'm going to keep going with what works.

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Old 09-18-2017, 07:04 AM
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Hi, Only in my opinion but if your GP prescribed a short course of 10 x 2mg diazepam to give you a bit relief its not breaking sobriety rules . However diazepam long term is as bad . Ive been there and abused diazepam and its not easy to come off them . I blame the GPs in UK for over prescribing .

Following my last drink ( this time) I have also said in a post somewhere my anxiety is "through the roof) well I,m 6 weeks sober and much better ,some days better / worse than others .
I was referred to an online course of CBT ( beating the blues) of which I am about to do session 4 .
If you can try to understand that our central nervous system takes a hammering when drinking and takes time to heal .
Good reading in Clair Weekes . And this NOTHING WORKS - NOTHING WORKS
Really? An online CBT course. Gotta check that out. I got involved in a CBT class a long time ago. It was great and made a big difference. John
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:30 AM
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Really? An online CBT course. Gotta check that out. I got involved in a CBT class a long time ago. It was great and made a big difference. John
I was referred by my GP . Once registered you go through 8 weekly sessions and each week a report is sent to your GP . You can also call a case handler /helper for any issues you might be having .

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Old 09-18-2017, 08:39 AM
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I found this information on benzos educational : The Ashton manual

This put things into perspective just how tiny the amount of diazepam you were prescribed .

benzo.org.uk : Benzodiazepines: How They Work & How to Withdraw, Prof C H Ashton DM, FRCP, 2002
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:48 AM
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I take xanex strictly on an 'as needed basis' for my anxiety/panic attacks. Of course they give me more than I need(legal drug dealers imo) and when I get my next script I toss the left overs in the garbage disposal. If you feel it's affecting your sobriety then it could be a problem. I myself, don't see it as an issue when used as needed to stay somewhat 'sane'.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by August252015 View Post
Similar experience here.

I am 19 mo sober and as Anna suggested, have tools I have learned to deal with my anxiety - I also have had an rx for ativan (lorazepam) since I quit drinking, and I do use it. It is 10mg up to 3x a day. I am completely honest with my therapist, careful about how I take the pills and always have some leftover at the end of the month. For me, meds I need are absolutely OK and are a complement to my AA program and support my sobriety.
Hi, if I was on a maintenance dose 30mg Ativan per day I would develop tolerance in a few weeks/months . Forgive me but if this is daily long term I would want to taper this down . Ativan screwed me up years ago .
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:42 AM
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Similar experience here.
It is 10mg up to 3x a day.
Do you mean 1mg? A typical dose of Ativan is 1 mg 2-3x/day.
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:18 AM
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A woman in my AA meeting said she might need to reset her sobriety day because she took Motrin PM. That seems really extreme to me.
That's just crazy!
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:29 AM
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Yes, especially since most people in recovery have insomnia and/or anxiety issues. Many of us drank because of these issues.
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:44 AM
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Some folks just go TOO far with things, at the end of the day anxiety is an illness and it can be heart wrenching and life destroying if not dealt with via cbt and medication etc


What's the point in getting sober only to live a life of horror everyday because of refusal of medication to treat the illness?

I look forward to the day that my anxiety is at an acceptable level and I can ENJOY my sobriety
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:57 AM
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Agree. I decided to stop taking Ambien because I realized I had an addictive relationship to it. However, I don't think that those who take Ambien as prescribed can't consider themselves sober.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:13 AM
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I wouldn't.
Early on I was so anxious that I could barely sleep, eat or function at all. I was a WRECK!! In a way I am grateful my early recovery was so difficult. I never EVER take my sobriety for granted because it was so hard for me to hold on that first year. I never want to go through that ever again.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:15 AM
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Benzodiazepine medication is not a long term solution for anxiety management .
Highly addictive and will cause more problems. Once tolerance is reached YOU WILL NEED MORE or suffer withdrawal symptoms so jumping from alcohol addiction to benzo addiction .
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:22 AM
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I'm on the see a therapist crowd as well. GP's aren't well schooled in mental illness and often times will hand out benzos when another medication would be more warranted.
Therapy alone can help quite a bit with your issues, and usually people start off on non-addictive drugs like SSRI's, then work up to benzos if they are needed.
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