Gilmer

You'll be fine!

I think I phrased my above comment badly. I wanted to emphasize that I am often irrational--I did NOT intend to imply that YOU are irrational!

Forgive me if I inadvertently put my foot in it!

tomsteve

so, ya didnt have them symptoms BEFORE going on the forums?

Chilledice

ohhhh but I AM irrational

If only you knew my fears and thoughts!

Gilmer

I'm sure both medication and talk therapy do help, but they attack different facets of the problem.

tomsteve

and you can stop being irrational IF you want to

Chilledice

Yes but now I have MORE symptoms.

Im that sensitive right now, I "catch symptoms" if that makes sense?

Chilledice

I'm trying I am, the more I try and wrestle and rationalize a thought the worse it gets.

tomsteve

okm so if you didnt have symptoms before reading about them, then what are the chances those symptoms arent real?
now how about lookin into treatment for the symptoms that are real?

tomsteve

seems if youre trying to rationalize, then youre trying to rationalize a thought is true when it isnt?

why not take your meds again?

Chilledice

I have mental symptoms , I know what in my head isn't real BUT still frightens the poop outta me.

Chilledice

I've stated before, scared of them not working and then im out of hope.

Not saying il never take them, just goona talk to a professional tomorrow and ask them if it wil correct certain thoughts.

tomsteve

gettin poop out is good!
now, about them meds....... have they worked before?

Gilmer

Be gentle with yourself, especially in these early days of sobriety.

When your mind is tempted to roil and wrestle, stop and immediately divert it to something benign. If you can, utter a quick praise or thanksgiving to God.

You may have to do this deliberate diverting 100 times a day, but it will keep you from going into self-destructive territory.

tomsteve

chilled- sloooooooooow down. youre past isnt unique. yup, ya did and said horrible things- just as MANY have.
now, stop kikin yourself in the ass about it.
youre NOt a bad man, just a sick man.
bad men dont feel the way ya do about your past actions.
sick men do.
and theres solutions!!
personally my past is the most valuable posession i have. i used to try and drink it away or to forget about it. THAT never worked, although it wasnt until i got sober that i realized if it did work, i wouldnt have had to keep tryin to drink it away.
then when i got sober i faced it ALL and learned from it- learned what made me tick.
then worked at cleaning up the wreckage- made amends where possible.
now my past doesnt haunt me.

Chilledice

They helped before yes, I wasn't too bad back then three years ago, I then suffered a breakdown and not been right since, gosh what.I wouldn't give to go back three years.

Gilmer

We'll be praying that you'll level back out soon.

tomsteve

ok, then maybe theyll work now?
have ya ever heard of the 4 7 8 breathing technique? ya might wanna look into it. its helped me from time to time

Chilledice

I do the 7x7 :-)

tomsteve

howz about some humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhvj_XJcUIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbuKGf-D-qE

Chilledice

HAHAHAHA nice one!!! The bug in windshield cracked my sides lol