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Old 04-17-2017, 06:01 PM
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Broke my 2 year sobriety

So I got pancretits 2 years ago.
I'd been sober ever since
Even give up the cigs. Which I'm still off.
The doctor told me even though my pancretits was severe it's wasn't chronic.
So I waited a while and mulled it over.
In the height of my drinking i went through a half bottle of whiskey and 10 pints of stout everyday.
And guess what. I broke my two year sobriety.
I have been physically fine health ways. And haven't had more that 4 pints twice a week. I'm 25 years old it has felt great to socialise this way again.
I need advice I feel I can control it, but what would you do?, do you have past experiences?. I feel I'm in a better place to be a social drinker, but I'm aware of how crafty the booze can be.
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:10 PM
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You might be a social drinker, Patrick. Let's hope you are. Only time will tell. If you are, well, you shouldn't have a problem.

Now, if you aren't, well, then, your consumption will increase and you will begin feeling out of control of your drinking.

As for the cigarettes....there is absolutely no science or personal anecdotal experience on record for the last, say, thirty or so years that suggests cigarette can be physically good for you in any way, shape, or form.

The Marlboro man is dead!!
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Originally Posted by patrickt1 View Post
So I got pancretits 2 years ago.
I'd been sober ever since
Even give up the cigs. Which I'm still off.
The doctor told me even though my pancretits was severe it's wasn't chronic.
So I waited a while and mulled it over.
In the height of my drinking i went through a half bottle of whiskey and 10 pints of stout everyday.
And guess what. I broke my two year sobriety.
I have been physically fine health ways. And haven't had more that 4 pints twice a week. I'm 25 years old it has felt great to socialise this way again.
I need advice I feel I can control it, but what would you do?, do you have past experiences?. I feel I'm in a better place to be a social drinker, but I'm aware of how crafty the booze can be.
Was the pancreatitis a result from the drinking? That would be worrisome to me especially at such a young age of 25...
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:16 PM
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You might be a social drinker, Patrick. Let's hope you are. Only time will tell. If you are, well, you shouldn't have a problem.

Now, if you aren't, well, then, your consumption will increase and you will begin feeling out of control of your

As for the cigarettes....there is absolutely no science or personal anecdotal experience on record for the last, say, thirty or so years that suggests cigarette can be physically good for you in any way, shape, or form.

The Marlboro man is dead!!
Well I wasn't a social drinker before. I drank to rid myself of crippling anxiety. And when I wasn't drunk I got worse so, I stayed drunk. Pretty sure the anxiety stemmed from drug use, cocaine and MDMA. And the alcohol became a crutch. I suppose I'm clutching at the possibility that another person has been able to come from dependent on alcohol to being able to be a social drinker.
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Was the pancreatitis a result from the drinking? That would be worrisome to me especially at such a young age of 25...
The pancretits was alcohol related. A bottle of whiskey and pints of stout everyday for roughly 2 years caused it
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Was the pancreatitis a result from the drinking? That would be worrisome to me especially at such a young age of 25...
Yeah, Steve, I was assuming the doctor said it was okay to drink in moderation. No doctor would allow a patient whose pancreas has been damaged by alcohol to drink. Maybe that's a bad assumption.

Patrick, what does your doctor say about social drinking? None of us here are doctors, and even if we were, we couldn't and shouldn't give you medical advice.
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Originally Posted by patrickt1 View Post
...I suppose I'm clutching at the possibility that another person has been able to come from dependent on alcohol to being able to be a social drinker.

Well, dear friend from Belfast, the simple answer to your question is:

No.

Sorry.
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Yeah, Steve, I was assuming the doctor said it was okay to drink in moderation. No doctor would allow a patient whose pancreas has been damaged by alcohol to drink. Maybe that's a bad assumption.

Patrick, what does your doctor say about social drinking? None of us here are doctors, and even if we were, we couldn't and shouldn't give you medical advice.
His exact words "be a weekend warrior if you decide to drink again"
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I don't believe that a longterm binge drinker/problem drinker/ alcoholic can revert to being a social drinker for very long.

Sorry Patrick.

And haven't had more that 4 pints twice a week.
I think 8 pints a week is way over normal - it's certainly way over 'healthy guidelines' for alcohol consumption.

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol...it-guidelines/

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Patrick I tried to be a 'normal' drinker. It worked for a few months and then I went right back to ground zero.
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:30 PM
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I don't believe that a longterm binge drinker/problem drinker/ alcoholic can revert to being a social drinker for very long.

Sorry Patrick.



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I do feel in a much better place. The 2 year sobriety along with some great therapy and self discovery was fantastic. So much so that I feel so in tune to never let myself get so bad again, but as I said I'm aware of how crafty the booze can be.
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To be frank:
You literally drank yourself into pancreatitis at a very young age. This sounds horribly painful. Now, you are asking if social drinking will be a good thing? If your drinking had any amount of control, you would not have physically landed yourself into that state. Its only a matter of time before the pints become more, in my opinion.

You are so young and have great opportunity to live a beautiful life. Seriously. I would not walk down the drinking road if I were you. You have the world available to you. Take it and make fabulous things happen.
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To be frank:
You literally drank yourself into pancreatitis at a very young age. This sounds horribly painful. Now, you are asking if social drinking will be a good thing? If your drinking had any amount of control, you would not have physically landed yourself into that state. Its only a matter of time before the pints become more, in my opinion.

You are so young and have great opportunity to live a beautiful life. Seriously. I would not walk down the drinking road if I were you. You have the world available to you. Take it and make fabulous things happen.
It was incredibly painful and I was and still am very proud of rising above it to be so close to death at the time I was the age 22 years old ( still a baby for christ sake lol)

However I've dealt with my anxiety issues.
I feel a trust in myself to never get that way again. I just don't know if I'm being naive and silly
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I'm curious as to why you would want to drink again after 2 years sobriety. You admit yourself it was a great two years. I am not one to tell another what to do, but I think you are playing with fire and would be very careful. Wish you the best.
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I'm curious as to why you would want to drink again after 2 years sobriety. You admit yourself it was a great two years. I am not one to tell another what to do, but I think you are playing with fire and would be very careful. Wish you the best.
Well, it wasn't all smiles and what have you, my social life did suffer in a big way. I live in Ireland so we have little activities here that don't revolve around the drink. .. none really. I did feel very out of place. I'm a full time musician too. And a glass of wine with my dad, or a pint of stout with my close friends was dreadfully missed. It was a big adjustment.
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I dunno, man. Two years of successful sobriety and self-discovery is a lot to jeopardize. I get the fond associations of alcohol with people/places/activities and learning how to navigate around all that, I really do.

In fact, that's kind of the theme here in the forums of SR
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Well, it wasn't all smiles and what have you, my social life did suffer in a big way. I live in Ireland so we have little activities here that don't revolve around the drink. .. none really. I did feel very out of place. I'm a full time musician too. And a glass of wine with my dad, or a pint of stout with my close friends was dreadfully missed. It was a big adjustment.
Yeah, ok...but. You drank yourself sick. Horribly sick. I understand the missing or longing. I truly get it. I just dont think the drink is an option.

Please stay close and keep posting.
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I lost my career as a musician because of my drinking.

My drinking would have killed me if I hadn't have stopped so I knew it was vital for me to build a new, sober, live that I love.

I live in Australia. I thought there was nothing else to do but drink either, but I've actually done more and had way more fun in the last ten years sober than I ever did drinking.

Got my music career back too.

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And.... You have to know drinking is not the option if you are posting on the SR forum. I mean, you could of carried on and no one would of known, but you chose to post here for a reason? All coming from respect of course.

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I need advice I feel I can control it, but what would you do?, do you have past experiences?. I feel I'm in a better place to be a social drinker, but I'm aware of how crafty the booze can be.
My advice would be that you are fooling yourself, or your addiction is. My past and current experience has shown me over and over that you cannot go back to regular drinking once you've crossed the line into alcoholic/addictive drinking. And you've crossed that line by a mile.

You are right that your addiction can be crafty, it's trying to be crafty with you now. You know the risks...they are very high. And the odds are overwhelmingly against you if you keep drinking. It's your choice though.
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