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Old 09-03-2016, 01:15 PM
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Bone Pain

OH, and bone pain is a real bugger.
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Old 09-03-2016, 01:31 PM
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Make it clear that your pain isn't managed enough. Get a note from your outpatient to supplement. Be very cordial in your communication.

Nurses must do what docs say. Remember that.
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Not only was one bone snapped in half, both my tibia and fibia were fractured meaning I had two bones in half and he actually said "how's that outpatient rehab working for ya" only because I was out in front of a restaurant that serves alcohol.

He wrapped it in the er and the medic who brought me in said it sounded like I was giving birth down the hall. He could have been nicer about the damn thing. The guy is a jerk and always has been. I was sent home 24 hours after surgery and am alone in the dark I won't/ cant get up from pain.. I was on an ace bandage for weeks by the way and wouldn't even get out of bed without it. I never ever wear heels.

I just looked at the pain meds they gave me on discharge which were supposed to be percocet and they are the mildest form. Basically tylenol. I had these for a root canal once. I have severe Migraines and a high tolerance to pain and would like to see this doctor put up with this pain with pins all down their leg and a big rod.

I am sorry for my rant. But alcoholics are not the same as drug seekers. You'd think they could see drugs in my blood work but it was clean.
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Old 09-03-2016, 05:15 PM
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Well, nurses have a license to uphold as well and could get accused for being negligent in not addressing a patient's pain properly. Hospitals and other healthcare facilities can get fined if they are found deficient in addressing people's pain. One hospital I know of has a sign up in their lobby and elevators that they promise to address patient's pain needs in a timely manner and if that is not done, there is a number they can call and report it to and something will get done. Sadly, it can be the nurse who is not reporting properly to Dr.'s about patient's lack of good pain relief and the Dr. may not even be aware of the problem. How can the Dr. order something better if they are not notified. But, it sounds like in this case the Dr. himself is biased against you because of your history of alcoholism....if he cannot look at you without that bias and give you good care, it's time for another Dr., if that is within your power. I am sorry, again for your suffering....it sounds like misery.
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Old 09-03-2016, 05:28 PM
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I really feel for you in this horrible situation, behindblueeyes. I shattered the end of my arm bone in 2011 and the pain shook me to my very core. For you to have to deal with this horrible pain without proper meds is truly outrageous. There's a special place in hell waiting on this jerk doctor, I hope. Stay strong through this crisis.
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Old 09-03-2016, 06:00 PM
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Thanks all. I am now seeing how drug seekers are created. I am thinking about doubling up on this med just to stop the pain. Of course, I know that would lead to withdrawal. I can see why people would call around out of the hospital for something stronger. Then the hospital can blame the patient and not be held responsible.
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Old 09-03-2016, 06:10 PM
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Please don't do that, BBE...I don't think you would, but I do see what you mean...pain is pain and goll dang it, it just HURTS...I still say I think you deserve to have your pain properly treated...regardless of your history...pain and trying to heal up well is the current issue here....It's 2016, not 1916. I'm having a hard time digesting that you are being treated to badly when you are in so much pain. My experiences as a patient are that my Dr. wanted me to have good pain relief. When I was in labor with my first baby he got after the nurse for not doing more to help relieve my pain.
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Old 09-03-2016, 06:33 PM
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I had a similar situation where I blew out my knee, and the docs were hesitant to prescribe meds. I was in excruciating pain and was given vicodin which did little, but later was given norco once I told them how bad it was.
Docs are very hesitant to prescribe pain meds, especially to former addicts even when they truly need them such as in your case. I would make a follow up appointment with a different doc and let them know your situation, you likely will find one that will help you better with the situation.
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Old 09-03-2016, 08:45 PM
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Your alcoholism probably frightens him. People don't like facing their own vulnerability and potential helplessness. Looking down on you helps him feel safe.

We're really a sad bunch of apes some days.
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Old 09-04-2016, 05:35 AM
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What were you doing outside a bar while in outpatient?

Sorry, I'm with the doc on this one. I've got a flagged chart too, and I've got news for you - It's because of me. No one else. I created the consequences in my life. There was and is no conspiracy against me.

The best thing the medical profession could do for people like us is to NOT give us drugs that have addiction potential. The amount of people I have seen relapse on painkillers is staggering, including those who "never had a problem with them", and who had long term sobriety/clean time. Some of those people are dead. Some of them look like they wish they were.

I've had painful stuff happen in recovery. I take advil and deal with it. I prefer the temporary discomfort to the life I left behind.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:10 AM
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Trying to get my drunk friend out of a bar, not inside, outside. I didn't even go in. It must be amazing to have the ability to withstand pain like this on just advil. But the ankle bone, tibia and fibula were all broken.

A spiral fracture is the most painful break you can have.

A week later, and I am not abusing any medication. IF I was given only advil for this, I would have done worse to stop the pain.

Just my opinion.
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:02 AM
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I'm sorry you're having to feel this pain and going through this.

The hesitancy of doctors to prescribe pain meds is pretty solid with the current addiction crisis. Most of these addictions were spawned by the over prescribing of pain meds.

My husband broke his arm last Friday and they gave him a 2 day supply of painkillers. He has no addiction history and didn't even want to take them but had to. He managed to space out the 2 day supply over 5 days. I called the ER last night asking if we could just get a few more prescribed to get through until I take him to the ortho doctor today. The answer was no and to call his primary care physician. I did this and ended up with a higher dose acetaminophen. Doctors are very leery now to prescribe pain meds and understandably so.

You have to at least understand that looking at your past history why they would be leery can't you? You have been on meds and were taking sleeping pills so you could sleep without alcohol. You have been to rehab. Although it definitely seems cruel and unusual that you're having to feel this pain you at least have something to take. The pain will eventually go away, I know that doesn't help now but what they're doing is not to punish you, it's to protect you and themselves. They are this way with people who have no history of addiction so they're going to be that much more careful with someone who has a past.

It sucks not to be trusted but there's many reasons behind it.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:22 AM
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I was always taking melatonin. I was on Ativan for a while but no doctor or hospital ever knew I had a problem with those. I was in the ER once for withdrawal from alcohol.

I am not sure what a "flagged" chart is. I guess I am flagged for alcohol abuse as my discharge papers show here. They gave me 3 days of pain pills and I have really spaced them out to the point where Im breaking them into tiny pieces. I can see why they won't give me more but it's hard to be rational through pain.

In my area, they had 29 Heroin overdoses in 4 days. I know if I call, they won't give me more so I am going to have to figure something else out. I have not been getting up and have been using the restroom in cups (this is where it gets desperate, sorry for the details) because the pain is too much).

I can't see my ortho until next week.
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:00 AM
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Did an ortho do the surgery, not the general ER doc? A specialist on call? I know general ER docs give the minimum as they aren't following up with the patients. If an ortho did not do the surgery (can't imagine), can you call your primary care Dr? With that type of injury it's unfathomable not to have pain control.
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Old 09-08-2016, 06:54 AM
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An Ortho did the surgery. The ER doc wrapped it up and such but that was all I saw of him.

I would love to see my PCP right now but my mom has cancer and is my only way of getting in/out of this place. No driving.

It's a tough situation. Last night I had a rough night. I think the post-anesthesia is making me irrational also plus I am still recently sober and entirely alone. Id like to go outside but just stare out the window. It's kinda like having an ankle-monitoring bracelet that hurts lol.
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BBE.. Can you call the Ortho then? He/she may be horrified about your pain control.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:12 AM
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I may. But there is still no way to get any pills as I can not drive or have anyone pick up a controlled substance for me.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:38 AM
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I called the ortho and they gave me meds. However, my parents were here an hour ago and my dad won't let my mom go get them. He is an alcoholic and just sat in the car. Wouldnt even come up to see me.

So I will have to battle this out till monday. But, at least they are letting her sign off on the script then.
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:47 PM
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I guess I'm not understanding what makes Monday different than today in 'letting' your mom go get those meds for you...that doesn't make sense so me....this whole thing sounds a bit messed up. I'm my opinion pain is a separate issue from addiction. Are there people who abuse pain meds? Sure. But you are clearly in pain and have a reason to be(not making it up). You would likely be taking the pain meds for pain relief, NOT to get high. Maybe someday someone will invent a device that accurately measures exactly how much pain a person is in and medicate them accordingly. Until that time however, if a person says they are in pain coupled with the FACTS of the matter: You had a bad fracture; you had surgery. Hello!
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Old 09-10-2016, 01:26 PM
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My dad wouldn't let my mom come back and get the script. No way. He controls her every move.

So I suffer.

As far as that device, wouldn't it be amazing for someone to be able to measure the pain receptors in the brain "firing off" somehow? Im sure a CT scan can show what part of the brain is lighting up and how much. Would be a great invention.
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