Dee74

Hows it going Hammers?

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sugarbear1

AA Zürich | English-speaking fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous® Zurich, Switzerland

Hammers

Thank you all for your replies.
Not going to good. I lasted 36 hours.

I had to leave my flat for something
trivial. Got off at the train staiton at
midday, and bought bread. Waited
for a minute, thinking about going
home and not knowing if I wanted to
stay straight and do nothing sober.
I then went back in to the station shop
for a six pack and a bottle of Scotch.

It botheres me so much that I couldn't
go two days..

Hammers

Beers I drank with half of the Whisky,
the rest went down the sink. First time
I have ever chucked booze!!

I am going to try again tomorrow.

And thanks for the AA advice here in Switz.

Unfortunatley I am in the French part of Berne,
my French is top class, but no German, but I
really appriciate the gesture.

Thanks,
Nicholas..

Hammers

Thanks BerryBean

Thanks for that. I always hated those soundbites and those
anacronyms, but you are so right. I am tired and hungry and
always angry, but as I am head chef, anger is normal for me.
But I am angry for other reasons . Hopefully if I can stay sober
I may find out why.

Thanks, thanks a lot.
That made a lot of sense..

And thanks Thomas,
Cooking is easy, stopping drnking is rather
more difficult. There's booze everywhere
in my job..

Thanks.

Nicholas

Berrybean

Usually anger for me stems from fear, or unrealised desires. Not 'mortal danger' or necessarily material or physical desires, but other, more subtle fears and desires. Often having a look through the list seen in the Litany of Humility helps me do an inventory of what is rattling me....

the desire of being loved,
*the desire of being praised,
*the desire of being favored,
*the desire of being accepted,
*the desire of being consulted,
*the desire of being well-known,
*the desire of being honored,
*the*fear*of being criticized,
the fear of being ridiculed,
the fear of being humiliated,
The fear of being falsely accused,
the fear of being persecuted,
the fear of being disbelieved,
The fear of being despised,
*the fear of being forgotten,

D122y

Hammers,

Welcome.

If you Plan to detox at home you might need a friend to keep an eye on you.

Depending on how you drank...you might try a taper...w beer.

Cold turkey might kill you.

Google beer taper.

Hammers

Thanks, Yeah, has been in my thoughts. I am, for my
alcoholism, unfortunatley, reasonably intelligent, and
a straight stop isn't good at all. I did work out a plan
using Excel and a graduated syringe with Whisky. Starting
with 75ml first day, then going down 2ml a day. Didin't
work. Done the first 75ml but there is a bottle of Whisky
in my kitchen missing 75ml..

You know the rest..

Good point for others too..

Thanks, Nicholas

Hammers

Yeah, can only argue with the last one though!!!
Forget me! If only!!

All the others sound far too familiar!!

Thanks.

Berrybean

Haha. Yes, me too. Not so much nowadays, but if I'm not working my program or there are 2 or more of those HALT triggers rattling me they can still sneak up. The difference now is that I know to watch for them. Before I'd skip straight from fear or desire onto anger, and act on the feeling of anger (or rage) like a puppet on a string. Now I can practice the pause, and not be led by the nose by fear into anger into action like a loon. Mostly. Lol

Hevyn

Glad to have you with us, Nicholas. I drank all my life. Talking things over here really helped me - I was no longer alone. No one in my daily life knew the extent of my dependence - and those who did, never understood what I was going through. I'm glad you want to reclaim your life. (I know being in the restaurant biz complicates matters.)