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Old 03-30-2016, 11:43 PM
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How often do non alcoholics get unconscious

Morning everyone I was re-reading under the influence last night and I remember a bit about how non alcoholics rarely get unconscious

What are your thoughts ?
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I think it says something like only rarely will non alcoholics consume enough alcohol to cause unconsciousness?

I think it really depends on what you consider a 'non alcoholic' to be and what value you define as rarely.

I think what we consider binge drinking is recognised a lot more now in 2016 than it might have been in 1981.

The bottom line is no matter who you are if you drink enough booze you'll pass out.

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I'm guessing it has to do with some of the brain changes and tolerance that alcoholics develop.

I probably was somewhat unconscious during what I would have called "sleeping". Drinking a lot until I collapsed in my bed for a few hours of not being aware of my surroundings.
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It does and thank you D
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:00 AM
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D my definition of an alcoholic is something you taught me which is a person who can't drink safely or responsibly

Do you think that is accurate

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Old 03-31-2016, 02:06 AM
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Ive been looking for the jellinek scale that my sponsor gave me with the 2 wolves story I think it was this or very similar

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Am I only one horrified by that little exit off the curve that says "Death"?
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Am I only one horrified by that little exit off the curve that says "Death"?
Well, it is a very unfortunate reality for millions of people each year.
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Well, it is a very unfortunate reality for millions of people each year.
Sadly it is. That's why it horrifies me.
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If I said it it must be true SW

Thats a basic definition yeah

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Old 03-31-2016, 04:58 AM
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D you have been a constant in my sobriety & your wise I've always said that

I laughed when I saw your post if I said it it must be true
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I drank around the clock and I was never unconscious...nor was I "insanely drunk." No blackouts. Not noticeably drunk around family and friends.

I was drunk, for sure. I would guess my daily BAC was probably around .15 at any given moment. I don't pay too much heed to "criteria" I must conform to in order to be an alcoholic. I know I was miserable. I know I was drinking too much. I know I couldn't stop. I've surrendered. Charts like this can be dangerous....I can easily see myself finding loopholes "See, I never did THAT. I must not be an alcoholic." I try not to go there. I have further to fall if I go back to drinking. I've fallen far enough. Still clawing my way out of this pit!
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The chart is my signature & the diesease of alcoholism chart was something I posted i didnt mean to mix up that with the question

The question was from a section in the book titled under the influence
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Thank you SW for the Jellinek curve chart. I find it helpful in many different ways!
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The intrinsic neurophysiology of the nonalcoholic generally prevents them from drinking to blackout the vast majority of the time.

Nonalcoholic neurophysiology has a natural aversion to consuming the amount of alcohol required to achieve blackout, so they often quit well before they are comatose.

This is my interpretation of their fundamental position on that particular question.
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Might be a good idea at this point to make sure of the distinction between "passing out" ("unconscious") and "blacking out," as they're sometimes confused.

"Passing out" or "unconscious" means drinking to insensibility. The person isn't active or aware. It's relatively common for casual (non-alcoholic) drinkers to reach this state when drinking to excess.

"Blacking out" means remaining conscious and active but being so intoxicated that the process of transferring memory from short-term to long-term is interfered with. Drunks in blackout say and do things they have no memory of upon sobering up. Blacking out is more common among alcoholics than non-alcoholics, as it's tied to tolerance. Drinkers with a high tolerance can more easily attain black-out levels of intoxication without passing out.
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Thanx for this post SW. Its made me even more determined not to touch another drop - I cannot believe I am still alive!!! x
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