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Old 01-24-2016, 06:31 PM
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OK, several people have asked me if I was speaking to them here.

When I start a thread it's usually in response to something, but I wasn't writing to anyone in particular, and definitely not trying to make anyone paranoid.

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Old 01-24-2016, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dee74 View Post

After a while I gained a reputation as a kingsized BSer.

My days as a drunk BSer are long gone - and people can appreciate the principled honest and trustworthy guy I aim to be and hope I really am.
This part of Dee's post resonates with me about actions being louder than words. I've been privileged to know Dee for almost three years, the very last thing I would call him is a "BSer".

Dee's honesty and reaching out have been one of the fundamentals to my recovery.

I know Dee wasn't looking for such comments when he wrote the OP but his actions here at SR do speak louder than any promise he may once have made.

I told virtually no-one when I decided to quit finally. I knew that saying I was giving up alcohol would be meaningless unless people saw it.

They see it. It turns out that doing it is way more effective than anything I could say.
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Old 01-24-2016, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dee74 View Post
Not all of those posts are winners awuh...I started slow LOL

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You've got a deft touch -- supportive and still challenging. It's much appreciated, and I know for a fact I ain't alone in feeling that way, bud.
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:30 AM
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I definitely wasn't fishing for compliments., but thanks for the kind words, guys

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Old 01-25-2016, 01:43 AM
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I think guilty of that too i say alot and dont follow up on it - i didnt think i was a bser, i thought i simply didnt have the time! How can i find time im busy drinking or being severely hung over!! Not my fault **** happens right ..... Lol these were the deluded things id tell myself - i look forward to being able to follow through on what i say, that would be a great gift for me - great post dee
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Old 01-25-2016, 03:14 AM
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Brave words from a good man - I took what D said as he knows what it's like as he's been there he was very honest which I commend & his words were very true & more importantly he don't want no one suffering

A excellent message D
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Old 01-25-2016, 04:44 AM
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So true Dee. As they say, talk is cheap.
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:48 AM
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You've got a deft touch -- supportive and still challenging. It's much appreciated, and I know for a fact I ain't alone in feeling that way, bud.
I agree Thump, Dee does have a gift in electronic communication. He can be firm, supportive and motivating all in once sentence.
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:54 AM
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A solid post as always Dee!!

ps. usually when a post specifically hits me in the ol' heart strings, it's probably something I should reread and take note of!!
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Old 01-25-2016, 06:27 PM
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I believe Dee is talking to all of us. Himself included. At the very least his words ring true with this alcoholic. I may be better than I was but that does not mean I have a long way to go.
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Old 01-25-2016, 06:44 PM
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I agree, MI - this post is for everyone, even those with some sobriety under their belts. We don't become perfect when we are sober, we still have a long way to go in the integrity department. Honesty and dependability are building blocks for a long-term sober foundation. We've all BS'ed for enough for two lifetimes, haven't we? Walking the walk feels damn good after a while.
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You aren't alone MI ... count me in.
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:44 PM
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So so true.. Needed to read this today . Thanks Dee
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:25 AM
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:48 AM
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Love this. And while you're not fishing for compliments, you get one from me Dee. I've never come across anyone as insightful and kind and articulate yet softly direct. It's a gift.

I was never confronted with being an alcoholic so the only person I was lying to all those times was myself and that was enough. And I lied to myself plenty - in the end, even though there is a part of me that just doesn't want to go alcohol free forever, I just march on, push it out of the way, hope that in the morning I'll be grateful I didn't cave. And over time, that part of me is getting smaller and smaller and oh so much more manageable. Actions don't just show others you're serious, they show yourself you're serious.
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Old 01-26-2016, 07:21 AM
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So true.

I think a lot of alcoholics become rather adept manipulators, even manipulating themselves. Everytime quitting was a big show, I failed.
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Old 01-26-2016, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bigsombrero View Post
I agree, MI - this post is for everyone, even those with some sobriety under their belts. We don't become perfect when we are sober, we still have a long way to go in the integrity department. Honesty and dependability are building blocks for a long-term sober foundation. We've all BS'ed for enough for two lifetimes, haven't we? Walking the walk feels damn good after a while.
I led a lifetime of lies to myself and others. I don't believe it is possible to try to function in a normal world and be an alcoholic without being a pathological lier.

I love the line:

What do you get when a horse thief sobers up?

You get a sober horse thief.

My natural state is to lie and just because I'm sober changes nothing. I work on being honest and trustworthy everyday of my life
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