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Old 10-29-2015, 02:11 AM
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I used to up until three weeks ago be a gym freak. I have interests in psychology, reading, gaming.
Well...absolutely nothing wrong with being a gym freak in my opinion! What stopped you from going? Maybe you could get back into that. I love the gym..but love working out outside even more...Exercise is sort of like a lifeline for me in coping with stress/pressure/tension...AND it helps you sleep better and when we sleep better our brains behave better and we as less apt to seek out liquor or other substances...at least that is how it is for me...everyone's different , eh/
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Oh... O K .. what do you like to read? I think reading is an awesome outlet! .... so is psychoanalyzing people...wink..
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Oh... O K .. what do you like to read? I think reading is an awesome outlet! .... so is psychoanalyzing people...wink..
Alex cross novels mainly. Wouldn't mind a job like that. I studied psychology for a while. Not quite close to that phd though.
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Alex Cross...homicide detective/psychologist... I have felt drawn to that line of work too ... I like to figure things out ...like to get to the bottom of it... In fact, I have a hard time shutting my brain off, which is why I have insomnia...which has been a problem ..Have you read Michael Connelly?
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Alex Cross...homicide detective/psychologist... I have felt drawn to that line of work too ... I like to figure things out ...like to get to the bottom of it... In fact, I have a hard time shutting my brain off, which is why I have insomnia...which has been a problem ..Have you read Michael Connelly?
I've not read those stories no. I don't switch off which is probably why I drink more and more just so I can. If I'm not worried about one thing my mind will instantly replace it with another one.
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From what I read, you stand a chance to seize up again.

Maybe a Dr.s help during the withdrawal phase is the right way?

After that, it sounds like you have insatiable cravings.

Not my area. My cravings were always managed w out help. No Sponser, no drugs.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:41 AM
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I've not read those stories no. I don't switch off which is probably why I drink more and more just so I can. If I'm not worried about one thing my mind will instantly replace it with another one.
I don't seem to have an off switch either...I envy people who do...
Michael Connelly writes the Harry Bousch novels...who is a homicide detect....also the Lincoln Lawyer novels...a few made into movies...

Well..hey! STOP WORRYING!! Seriously, if only it were that easy, dang-it! *sigh* but-drinking isn't the answer and we have to get to sleep sometimes or we will become psychotic ... so.....deep breathing helps...let your mind wander off to a beautiful pristine high mountain meadow..say, the Sawtooth Wilderness in somewhere in Idaho .... running water ...crystal clear... wow ..haven't been there in a while but will never forget it ... high elevation hot springs at the end of a long day's hike or just camping or whatever ...i never slept very well camping either, except when I was a kid ...

insomnia has sure been a problem for me ...........hope you get to sleep sometime this morning without drinking yourself to sleep ...........Dr.'s a prescribing the more sedating antidepressants now for sleep .... a growing trend ....ever think about giving something like that a try?
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From what I read, you stand a chance to seize up again.

Maybe a Dr.s help during the withdrawal phase is the right way?

After that, it sounds like you have insatiable cravings.

Not my area. My cravings were always managed w out help. No Sponser, no drugs.
Thanks for your reply and yeah I've been worst of the worst when withdrawing. Had every symptom going but it's psychological to me, I just don't like thinking sometimes.
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I don't seem to have an off switch either...I envy people who do...
Michael Connelly writes the Harry Bousch novels...who is a homicide detect....also the Lincoln Lawyer novels...a few made into movies...

Well..hey! STOP WORRYING!! Seriously, if only it were that easy, dang-it! *sigh* but-drinking isn't the answer and we have to get to sleep sometimes or we will become psychotic ... so.....deep breathing helps...let your mind wander off to a beautiful pristine high mountain meadow..say, the Sawtooth Wilderness in somewhere in Idaho .... running water ...crystal clear... wow ..haven't been there in a while but will never forget it ... high elevation hot springs at the end of a long day's hike or just camping or whatever ...i never slept very well camping either, except when I was a kid ...

insomnia has sure been a problem for me ...........hope you get to sleep sometime this morning without drinking yourself to sleep ...........Dr.'s a prescribing the more sedating antidepressants now for sleep .... a growing trend ....ever think about giving something like that a try?
I've done relaxation before but I find I twicth and can't lay still for long, the more I try the more I start fidgeting although if you can get yourself in the right mood it's helpful. I take heavy duty sleepers already and I do sleep but I often wake up early for a morning beer, then another and another and yeah you can see where it goes. Sleep hasn't been a problem for me really, couldn't imagine not being able to sleep, must be horrible.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:08 AM
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it's tough to just "get some sleep". if you go to the hospital they will hook you up to IV saline drip and give you some benzos (Ativan/ lorazepam). If you need to call out of work I would recommend that, having withdrawals at work is the worst
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At the risk of sounding like a jerk, I think your favorite author is kind of irrelevant right now. I think you are in a serious situation. You were in the hospital one week ago due to withdrawals, you are back to square one and need to work tomorrow? I can only offer my opinion and that is your mind needs to be thinking about how you are going to get through this. Please seek help if you feel its necessary. Probably a bad idea to show up to work drunk or withdrawing.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:54 AM
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I agree with Thomas; it sounds as though you are in a serious situation

My feeling is that you should first seek a medical detox, especially as someone who has experienced serious withdrawals in the recent past. Formulating a strong plan to achieve and sustain sobriety and recovery seems a wise second step. Consult with your GP, speak with an addiction's specialist, consider rehab (inpatient or intensive outpatient).

Going to work tomorrow (hung-over, drunk, or withdrawing) doesn't sound like a wise step. You could find yourself out of work.

Stick with us Need2Stop; we are on your side.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:57 AM
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Alex Cross is fictional character - my alcoholism is very real. Once I stopped fantasizing about how my life could be different and started putting in the real, hard work of getting sober - leading to recovery - the fantasy of a better life becomes real.

I continued to walk the sober(ish)/drunk tightrope for years. Many don't survive that - hope you'll make some life changing decisions soon. Love to read about your journey, friend!

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Alex Cross is fictional character - my alcoholism is very real. Once I stopped fantasizing about how my life could be different and started putting in the real, hard work of getting sober - leading to recovery - the fantasy of a better life becomes real.

I continued to walk the sober(ish)/drunk tightrope for years. Many don't survive that - hope you'll make some life changing decisions soon. Love to read about your journey, friend!

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Thanks for your reply. I actually passed out for an hour or so. I'll really be honest. I've come back many a time as "sober" to the world. I'm 27 and have been in rehab twice already. I find that the alcohol just makes me real and if I don't drink I'm shy and unmotivated, I'm an introvert by nature and I don't mind that so much although I figure I shouldn't be as everyone else seems out going, just being honest on here actually makes me nervous.
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I agree with Thomas; it sounds as though you are in a serious situation

My feeling is that you should first seek a medical detox, especially as someone who has experienced serious withdrawals in the recent past. Formulating a strong plan to achieve and sustain sobriety and recovery seems a wise second step. Consult with your GP, speak with an addiction's specialist, consider rehab (inpatient or intensive outpatient).

Going to work tomorrow (hung-over, drunk, or withdrawing) doesn't sound like a wise step. You could find yourself out of work.

Stick with us Need2Stop; we are on your side.
Thanks for the advise. I've told work I'm not going back tomorrow despite the support they offered, I guess I'm a lucky guy when it comes to work. I have been doing this for years. The hardest part is facing reality and dealing with the wrongs I've done. People still think I'm sober, another lie.
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Thanks for the advise. I've told work I'm not going back tomorrow despite the support they offered, I guess I'm a lucky guy when it comes to work. I have been doing this for years. The hardest part is facing reality and dealing with the wrongs I've done. People still think I'm sober, another lie.
Then you really need to sober up and get back into work the day after tomorrow; go to the hospital tomorrow if you arent feeling well. Nothing worse than losing a job because of alcohol. You will have a hard time forgiving yourself for that. Maybe it is time for another stint in rehab? This time more intense or longer?
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Need2Stop, you are only 27 years old. I can excuse some recklessness due to youth. But by your own admission you've been to rehab twice, detox at least once that we know of and are actively drinking. If you like to read; read a few hundred posts on this site or go to the success stories section of this website and read what people have gone through. When you are are 47 (if you make it) things will be very bad for you. I really hope you can grasp the seriousness of the advanced stage you are at, at such a young age. I truly wish the very best for you. You deserve better.
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Thanks for the advise. I've told work I'm not going back tomorrow despite the support they offered, I guess I'm a lucky guy when it comes to work. I have been doing this for years. The hardest part is facing reality and dealing with the wrongs I've done. People still think I'm sober, another lie.
Now you are at the inevitable fork in the road. A. use this as an opportunity to get sobered up, or B. an excuse to stay drunk. I sincerely hope you choose option A.
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Old 10-29-2015, 02:26 PM
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Need2Stop, why don't you call a friend for a ride to the ER now; you have been on a long binge and you seem unable to stop; a medical detox could get you started on sobriety. As you have the day off tomorrow, you can start working on a sober plan, schedule an appointment with you GP and an addictions' specialist, and take a serious look at your life.

As a bunch of alcoholics, we recognize when someone is in over his head.

We are in your corner. Many of us have been in rough shape and have recovered. So can you.
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Thanks for all your useful information. Going sober has been more on my thoughts today. But I'd need to taper off like my gp suggested and there's no definite I'll get put in rehab if I go to hospital. Work are very understanding and it's the type of job where people come and go anyway. Just need to take this time to decide what I want.
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